“U.S. asks Croatia to take Kosovo refugees”

[Crvena zvezda]

“U.S. asks Croatia to take Kosovo refugees”4 October 2007 | 17:02 | Source: Reuters ZAGREB -- The U.S. has reportedly asked Croatia to accommodate refugees if a "flare-up in Kosovo provokes an exodus."

Zagreb-based Jutarnji List daily wrote on Thursday the U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Daniel P. Fata had broached the issue with a Croatian military delegation in Washington in September.

He asked if Zagreb was ready to "protect NATO's borders" in the event of a refugee crisis, and “keep refugees out of NATO and European Union territory.”

Croatia's near neighbors Italy, Slovenia and Hungary are NATO and EU members. Croatia is expected to join NATO next year and the EU some time later.

"The delegation gave a positive answer, saying Croatia already had experience with housing refugees," the daily said, citing unnamed Croatian sources. "Croatia is expected to monitor its borders and prevent refugees from crossing into the EU."

Reuters reports that Croatian officials were not immediately available for comment while U.S. officials in Zagreb declined to speak to the agency on the subject.

[Crvena zvezda]

This report sounds weird, considering neither albanians nor serbs would take refuge in Croatia if there was trouble. But if this report is proven accurate then it further shows America does not know what it is doing in Kosovo since yesterday American officials said "Only independence can benefit Kosovo Serbs" and a day later it seems the US is making contingency plans for a possible exodus of even more Kosovo Serb refugees.

The US is purportedly asking Croatia to "protect NATO's borders" and “keep refugees out of NATO and European Union territory.”

Why is the US asking instead of NATO and EU officials? What will Croatia get in return from the US? Does the US control both NATO and the EU?
What does the United Nations have to say about Mr. Fata’s request?

No one should be surprised that the US embassy has no comment. Once again, it speaks clearly of another failed US foreign policy.

[Menydh]

It's not only that they do things without having a clue, but they also seem to improvise as they go what they haven't planned ahead (precisely for not having a clue). It couldn't get more retarded, and it couldn't get more dangerous.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

I am really disappointed with Reuters, I thought it was a serious news agency. This news that Reuters brought forth does not come from any reliable source, but was taken from the article published yesterday in the Croatian daily Jutarnji List.

Here is the article, for those who are able to read Croatian:

Jutarnji.hr

Jutarnji List (something like: Morning Herald) is a daily newspaper with very doubtful credibility. It is owned by a wealthy and powerful firm called Europa Press Holding, which owns much of the media in Croatia, has mafia ties and is itself in part owned by the German media concern WAZ (Westdeustche Allgemeine Zeitung, which also owns larger part of Serbian and Bulgarian printed media, and is very close to the Socialdemocratic Party of Germany!!!). In addition, it is very closely connected with the Croatian political power structures. So, in fact, there is no free press in Croatia today. The political orientation of all the media under the control of Europa press Holding is rabidly anti-nation, pro-globalist, pro-EU, pro-NATO, pro-American, "politically correct" etc etc. Many of the articles published in Jutarnji List border on yellow press.

This specific article from Jutarnji List said that the information came from an "unnamed source". It said that a certain American official Daniel Fata asked the Croatian authorities if they would take refugees in case of war in Kosovo. A journalistic hoax, most probably, coming from "unnamed sources." But why did Reuters uncritically take over this nonsense from Jutarnji List? Just a matter of unprofessional negligence or there is some hidden politico-propaqgandistic agenda? Who would know. We should expect mr. Fata to either confirm or deny these allegations.

But Crvena Zvezda pointed it right: it is highly improbable that even in the case of war, either Albanians or Serbs would seek refuge in Croatia. Albanians would seek refuge in Albania (or in Turkey?) and Serbs in Serbia.

Even if the news were true, it is something monstruous. We have too many problems of our own and certainly we are not ready to receive refugees from others' wars. Let them stay where they are.

[Crvena zvezda]

Reuters like CNN is not a relialbe news agency. It is an American propaganda mouthpiece.

[Crvena zvezda]

I'm pretty sure the U.S. knows Serb refugees would go to Serbia, so they could refer only to Albanian refugees. The only thing I could see making Albnaian refugees is Kosovo remaining in Serbia, which is a good thing. However, I think it is unwise for Croatia to accept Albanian refugees but it is even more unwise to make Montenegro, Albania or FYROM take care of these refugees especially since they would be destabliling factor in each country (in Croatia they would be such a factor in the long run). I think if the U.S. wanted to do something useful they'd have Turkey take in these Albanians.

[Superstar]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

I think if the U.S. wanted to do something useful they'd have Turkey take in these Albanians.

Why not Albania take in the Albanians?

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Superstar

Why not Albania take in the Albanians?

Albanians beliong in Turkey. More Albanians in Albania will lead to more instability in Albania and they will cross over the border again.

[AnfangerUS]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

Reuters like CNN is not a relialbe news agency. It is an American propaganda mouthpiece.

In response to the comment about being like CNN and piece of proganda... I have to say that CNN is hated by a vast number of Americans who refuse to watch it because of its globalist, socialist, anti- nationalist stance on every issue. In addition to my friend of Serbia. America is not all for Kosovo, the progressive, Muslim loving media is. Some of us know about Kosovo Polje; you were and are the defenders of Europe from Muslim hordes. We should not be your opponent but your ally. Also I find it tragic that the Christian Slav brothers of the Croat and Serb nations cannot see that they should work together. It is in Bosnia, Albania, and now muslim-dominated Kosovo you have true challenges to face.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by AnfangerUS

In response to the comment about being like CNN and piece of proganda... I have to say that CNN is hated by a vast number of Americans who refuse to watch it because of its globalist, socialist, anti- nationalist stance on every issue.

Aren't all these thing also America's ideals?

America is not all for Kosovo, the progressive, Muslim loving media is.

Really just some media? Why is then America having one of the largest military camps in the world, right in Kosovo: the Bondsteel.
I suppose it is some "progressive, Muslim-loving media" that set up that camp there and not the US government...

In my humble opinion, America is neither pro or contra "independence" of Kosovo, they are just playing with it as with some means to blackmail Serbia into being their puppet-state. Serbia is still somehow resisting.

Of course, some Serb would be more competent post on this. I don't want to offend any other nation or meddle with other nation's interior businesses, just stating my opinion.

Also I find it tragic that the Christian Slav brothers of the Croat and Serb nations cannot see that they should work together.

First of all, we are not any kind of "brothers". I am not too fond of any any such sentimental, soppy notions like "brotherhood" among nations. Forced "brotherhood and unity" was shoved down our throats during the time of Yugoslav Communism and you know where it ended. Serbia is a for me a neighbouring country with which it is possible to cooperate in the future (against globalism and possibly resurgent Wahhabi Islam in Bosnia, which is also threat to Bosnian Croats), I don't either hate or love them. We share the common border, we are neighbours and are going to stay it for ever. It is also part of the European Christendom, like Croatia. Of course, there can be cooperation on condition they give up their pretentions on parts of Croatian territory.

As for Kosovo's independence, it is very wrong to support it, not only because of its Islamist component, but also because it is a serious infraction on the principle of the sovereignity of nations. Similar principle for forcible separation of some chunk of the national territory could be used in future against any country. And I believe in Europe of sovereign nations.

[Sergius]

I find it hard to believe that the average American has any clue about Kosovo, the history of the conflict, or where to stand on the issue. It is an issue that only exists on the level of the media and the politicians, and which never comes close to bothering the Americans. So talking about 'America' being for or against is hardly relevant.
If anything, people are likely to take the stand of the Albanians because of the common notion of Serbia as an 'evil fascist country.'

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Plethon

In my humble opinion, America is neither pro or contra "independence" of Kosovo, they are just playing with it as with some means to blackmail Serbia into being their puppet-state. Serbia is still somehow resisting.

I agree with this. Serbia is resisting because the DSS and SRS, both of whom are anti-NATO, have enough seats to block Serbia becoming either a NATO state or American puppet. If Serbia's government was to comeout and say that they would allow Americans to have Camp Bondsteel and make U.S. bases in Serbia (which the U.S. has wanted too), America would then support Serbia's stance on the issue.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

I agree with this. Serbia is resisting because the DSS and SRS, both of whom are anti-NATO, have enough seats to block Serbia becoming either a NATO state or American puppet. If Serbia's government was to comeout and say that they would allow Americans to have Camp Bondsteel and make U.S. bases in Serbia (which the U.S. has wanted too), America would then support Serbia's stance on the issue.

I may agree with this, in some points, anyway, DSS and SRS as much as they are currently anti NATO, they are nothing but bunch of retards incapable of doing their job.

NATO and Kosovo issues are related, but also, they also doesn't have much to do with the situation on Kosovo, SRS and DSS done nothing about Kosovo issue for 8 years now, all that anti-NATO bullshit is only campaign for the elections, tell me, how is it possible that nationalistic party like SRS, and democratic, slightly right winged party like DSS, both on the high political positions in state, with majority in Serbia parliament, don't have plans for Kosovo as Serbian land, don't have attitude, they can go around and make bullshit statements like Kosovo is part of Serbia, but what are they gonna do about it?

Everyone are talking about Russian help, but tell me, who is crazy enough to even try to think that such problem will be solved by anyone else by us?
Why SRS and DSS stayed quite after Nasiri's statement that Kosovo will declare independence?

That's bullshit, all they care is how much money they can earn from next elections, how many seats in the parliament they can take, they will sell Kosovo for the first offer that comes in.

What about Serbian lobby in the US? Albanians scums have great lobby there while SRS and DSS don't even care about such things.

Originally Posted by Ljubomir

I find it hard to believe that the average American has any clue about Kosovo, the history of the conflict, or where to stand on the issue. It is an issue that only exists on the level of the media and the politicians, and which never comes close to bothering the Americans. So talking about 'America' being for or against is hardly relevant.

If anything, people are likely to take the stand of the Albanians because of the common notion of Serbia as an 'evil fascist country.'

Key word, you are right, average Americans usually doesn't know much about Kosovo, but also, average Americans rarely have any clue about Balkans or easter Europe, AND also average Americans are the ones that have nothing to do with this conversation.

Americans that actually have something to do with this issue are the ones on the top (mostly jews), and believe me, they know MUCH about Kosovo, what do you think why America wants Kosovo independent (beside those camps and bases everyone mentioned, they can have them with or without independence)?