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There are two different camps among those concerned with the problems of the modern West: Those who ascribe them to a powerful and influential minority who champion certain ideologies, and those who ascribe them to a lack of cultural confidence and structural, religious and metaphysical problems in the West in general. I personally see some evidence to support both these explanations.

An alliance of left-wingers and right-wingers, or transnational progressives and transnational capitalists as John Fonte would have said, is undermining the nation state. It is more than a little ironic that Socialists are squarely on the side of the super-rich in desiring open borders. There is plenty of evidence that mass immigration has been promoted by cultural and political elites, and that opposition to this has been silenced with sometimes quite repressive means.

The Netherlands was much less thrilled about Multiculturalism than was generally assumed in elitist circles well before 2002. The media and the politicians drew a picture that simply didn’t correspond to reality. Maverick politician Pim Fortuyn only brought popular discontent to the surface, three sociologists at the Radboud University in Nijmegen concluded. “The positive image that almost all the Dutch had the same tolerant attitude to minorities as the ‘well-thinking’ section of the nation” (as the political and media elite are often described) was kept alive for a long time,” the sociologists maintain.

I do not dispute the fact that there has been a general breakdown of cultural confidence in the West and in Europe, but I do dispute the claim that this has translated into a generally shared death wish where the masses happily embrace their own eradication. The prevalence of hate speech laws and censorship is a strong indication of the contrary. Still, let us have a look at some structural flaws in the West.

As Euripides said: “Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.” Well, the West is currently stark, raving mad, and sometimes actively hates itself. I’m scratching my head trying to find out where this self-loathing comes from. Maybe we feel guilty because we are so successful and rich and accomplished that we just can’t take it anymore. But where do such ideas about guilt originate from? I suspect they are somehow related to the Judeo-Christian strand of the West. They do not stem from the Greco-Roman or Germanic ones. Bad things could be said about Julius Caesar, but suicidal guilt definitely wasn’t his major problem. Maybe we need a touch of Roman ruthlessness as well as Christian compassion. But Western self-loathing is frequently directed against Christianity, and that is somewhat puzzling if we assume that it emanates from Christianity.

What is Multiculturalism? There is probably a new Great Idea for every generation. It changes just enough for people to be duped again, but it always entails some form of large-scale change for millions of people. The less it corresponds to reality, the better. The point is to outbid others in Utopian ideas. What is behind it? Well, the joy of destroying the Established Order to bring purpose into otherwise purposeless lives and the desire to immerse oneself into grandiose ideas. The desire for personal power and the joy of being able to harass opponents shouldn’t be underestimated, either. If you claim that your Utopian ideas are about justice and equality, you can also claim that those who disagree with you are proponents of injustice and inequality, in other words evil, and outside the boundaries of civilized debate.

One should always be mindful of people who profess an ideology that entails sweeping changes to society, claim that this represents the unstoppable tide of history, and yet for some reason need to shut down critics through intimidation. If their ideology is so great, how come they are so reluctant to accept criticism? Good ideas can be rationally defended. If people resist critical scrutiny of their ideas, this is usually a powerful indication of the fact that these ideas are neither truthful nor desirable.

Can our democratic system survive the 21st century? Both Western and non-Western examples of early forms of direct democracy exist. Germanic societies, especially among the Nordic nations, had regional governing assemblies called ting already in the Middle Ages. Some of the parliaments in these countries, the Althing on Iceland, the Folketing in Denmark and the Storting in Norway, have retained this legacy in their names. Still, by far the most influential example, where the word “democracy” itself was originally coined, was the ancient Greek city-state of Athens. The Athenian democracy included the practice of ostracism, in which a citizen could be expelled for a decade under pain of death, and without a trial.

One person in democratic Athens who did face a trial, however, was Socrates, whom the oracle at Delphi had supposedly claimed was the wisest man alive. He was found guilty of corrupting the youth and drank the poisonous hemlock. The trial made a lasting impression on his disciple Plato, who concluded that a political system where a great man such as Socrates, who challenged people to think for themselves, could be sentenced for speaking his mind was an unjust system.

Plato may have been overly critical of democracy, but he wasn’t entirely wrong. Suppression of dissenters asking legitimate but bothersome questions about sensitive matters has remained a problem in democratic societies to this day. Democracy does not always ensure that wise people are allowed to be heard or that bad ideas are not implemented, as can clearly be seen in the case of Multiculturalism and Muslim immigration in the West. In hindsight, it is easy to notice that sweeping and possibly irreversible changes were implemented without proper debate. Those who objected were simply ignored or harassed into silence.




Securing the right to individual freedom of speech, as the US Founding Fathers did in the Bill of Rights, is a necessary step to remedy this flaw, but there are other forms of indirect censorship that may prove more difficult to combat. The culture of debate, which is absolutely essential for politics of reason to be possible, has been declining in the West for decades into a shouting match where the most aggressive groups frequently win.

Alexis de Tocqueville, the French author of the classic book Democracy in America, was surprised at how religious average Americans were, and linked the culture of democracy there partly to its religious base. In an interview with FrontPage Magazine, Hugh Brogan tells about his new book about de Tocqueville. Tocqueville was afraid that individual self-respect might succumb to the pressures of majoritarian conformism in the democratic system.

According to Brogan, “He would, I think, admit that in Democracy in America he should have recognised, even in 1835, the importance of lobbies and pressure-groups; and would find their fantastic power, based on the commercial manipulation of public opinion, quite unacceptable. His first and last principle was that you cannot have law without liberty or liberty without law, and these were his two supreme values.”

One of the challenges de Tocqueville didn’t deal with was the rising power of the Fourth Estate, the press, which has become so powerful that it dominates the three official branches of government. One of the pitfalls in our modern, complicated and fast-changing society is that we are bombarded with such large amounts of information every single day that it is hard to decide which information is important and which is not. We have to rely on “gatekeepers” to filter out important information, and if those “gatekeepers,” the mass media, are heavily infiltrated by people with an anti-Western agenda, this creates very serious problems.

The writer Christopher Lasch in his book The Revolt of the Elites and the Betrayal of Democracy from the 1990s talks about how certain elite groups such as lawyers, academics and journalists threaten the democratic system by cutting themselves off from their own people. They all make a living from treating words and information as commodities, and the market for these commodities is increasingly international. He also warns against the consequences of the breakdown of religion.

I have recently started to fear that our democratic system, as it is currently fashioned, cannot survive this century. Cynically speaking, there are two basic tasks a government needs to perform in order to claim legitimacy for collecting taxes:

1. Keep criminals off the streets and maintain public order, so citizens can go about their affairs and conduct trade in reasonable safety. If this fails, and if ordinary citizens do not feel a minimum amount of security for their lives and property, trade and investments suffer, and the economy breaks down.
2. Uphold the territorial integrity of the country, and defend its borders and its citizens against external threats.

Right now, governments all over the Western world are performing poorly on the former, and failing abysmally on the latter, while still collecting obscene amounts of taxes. This situation simply isn’t sustainable for much longer. Our nations need to regain control over our own borders. The problem is, we are faced with the most massive migration waves in the history of mankind, at the same time as international law and human rights fundamentalism is crippling our ability to maintain our integrity, and while our political and business elites care less and less about their own people.

Have we reached the end of the Golden Age of governments accountable to the people? I hope not, but we have to make significant changes to the system to make it work, and I must admit that I cannot yet envision how all of these changes will look like, nor how we will go about to get them implemented.


I have debated the issue of Vikings vs. Muslims with some Scandinavians. Some have claimed that they were the Al-Qaida of medieval Europe. But Vikings valued truth and keeping their word to maintain their honor, instead of saving face. They had blood feuds, kept slaves and raided the Christians of Europe. Yet even though the Vikings could be brutal (“Thou shalt not kill” is a Christian concept), they still had an honor codex that was tied to acts of courage.

I’ve seen many examples of gangs of Muslim immigrants attacking lone victims, homeless people, handicapped people, etc. I’m not sure the Vikings would have done that. Not necessarily because it was wrong to use violence, but because the manner would have been dishonorable. Which means that we were superior to Muslims even during our most barbarian periods. Besides, most of us have evolved from such brutality. Muslims haven’t.

Scandinavian women also enjoyed far greater freedom than Muslim women in the pre-Christian Viking Age, which they retained in the Christian period afterwards.

According to Bernard Lewis in his book What Went Wrong?, “The difference in the position of women was indeed one of the most striking contrasts between Christian and Muslim practice, and is mentioned by almost all travelers in both directions. Christianity, of all churches and denominations, prohibits polygamy and concubinage. Islam, like most other non-Christian communities, permits both. (...) Muslim visitors to Europe speak with astonishment, often with horror, of the immodesty and forwardness of Western women, of the incredible freedom and absurd deference accorded to them, and of the lack of manly jealousy of European males confronted with the immorality and promiscuity in which their womenfolk indulge.”

This is all good, and we should be proud of it. But we now have a situation where men and women are presented not just as equal but as identical. At the same time women are implicitly and sometimes explicitly treated as better than men. This same illogical double standard mirrors that of Multiculturalism, where all cultures are equal yet Western culture is evil.

The Chinese talk about yin and yang, the feminine and the masculine aspects of nature, which are complementary and should ideally be in a state of balance. In modern Scandinavia, we have yin in abundance, but will shame yang and make him feel guilty for existing if he ever shows up. But a society cannot survive without an element of traditional masculinity.

As the columnist Jack Kelly says, “It is the soldier, not the priest, who protects freedom of religion; the soldier, not the journalist, who protects freedom of speech. History teaches that a society that does not value its warriors will be destroyed by a society that does.”

As I’ve demonstrated before, the ancient Greeks were pioneers in accurately depicting real life in arts. In modern times, linear perspective was developed during the Italian Renaissance, starting with Giotto, but developed fully in the early 15th century into the geometrical method of perspective by Filippo Brunelleschi. Something similar had never been produced by any other artistic tradition, be it Chinese, Indian or Middle Eastern. This totally different view of art probably reflected a totally different view of the world in general, and a break with previous traditions and authorities.

Leonardo da Vinci studied nature scientifically and used his own eyes to ensure that his work corresponded to reality as accurately as possible. This can be seen in his studies of the proportions of the human body depicted in his famous drawing The Vitruvian Man. He went beyond the authority of tradition and past masters, which is why the lady portrayed in the Mona Lisa looks so amazingly lifelike. This mentality is why the Scientific and Industrial Revolutions took place in the West.

In the early 16th century, writers such as Niccolò Machiavelli and painters such as Leonardo da Vinci were trying to describe the world as it actually is. In the early 21st century, Westerners have abandoned any pretense of doing so, and are instead living in an imaginary reality of how an ideal world should be. We could perhaps learn a thing or two from our ancestors. But is it conceivable that this Western desire to experiment, to disregard tradition and go beyond what has been done in the past can also in some cases be a flaw?

Maybe some of those traits which previously used to be our greatest assets, such as our respect for women, for human rights, individual freedom and our openness to outsiders have been carried into such extremes that they have become liabilities. Perhaps even initially good ideas can turn bad if practiced without moderation. The key word, which we seem to have forgotten, is “balance.” According to a conservative Swedish friend of mine, many of the seemingly crazy excesses now on display are not so much a perversion of Western civilization as a fulfillment of it. What has happened is that Westerners have carried many of the seeds of our culture into their theoretical (and extreme) limits. This has left us confused; we have fulfilled our civilizational mission, and don’t know what to do next.

The Canadian writer Naomi Klein believes that the terror attacks of September 11th 2001 were caused by Western racism. On the contrary, they were triggered by excessive anti-racism. If you believe the story of Michael Tuoheya, a former U.S. Airways ticket agent, he checked in terrorist leader Muhammad Atta for a flight that day. According to Tuoheya, “I said to myself, ‘If this guy doesn’t look like an Arab terrorist, then nothing does.’ Then I gave myself a mental slap, because in this day and age, it’s not nice to say things like this.” Atta joined three other hijackers and crashed into one of the World Trade Center’s towers in New York City.

Modern Westerners are increasingly unwilling to risk our lives for anything, but we are willing to die for anti-discrimination any day. Anti-racism is the new God, an angry God requiring your unquestioned submission and if necessary death — a bit like Allah, incidentally.

It is possible to view the history of the West as one of freeing oneself from the constraints of the past, and of granting equality to ever-expanding circles of people, starting with universal suffrage for men, later for women, then equality for all ethnic, religious and sexual subgroups and eventually even for non-citizens and enemies. The West has led the world in innovation for centuries. Yet perhaps this disposition, which has been the Western Man’s greatest strength, can also be his curse. Perhaps he sometimes breaks down restraints that are needed, and insists on equality where no equality naturally exists. His self-image has been to question tradition on every level, to always move forward. The Western Man has freed himself from the restraints of his traditions, his religion, his culture and the memories of his past. More recently, he has also rid himself off his sex, his skin color, his very physical being. He is, in essence, nothing, and is thus constrained by nothing. The Western Man is thus free at least.

The Western man was the first to create parliamentary democracy, the first to reach the North and the South Pole and the first to travel to the Moon. He always likes to go where no man has gone before him. The sad thing is that there is now so little unchartered territory, so few boundaries left to breach. What to do? Well, embracing organized national suicide is something no man has ever done before, presumably for very good reasons. The Western Man smells an opportunity to once again lead mankind into unchartered territory, and boldly seizes it. He may not be sensible, but at least he’s first, and to the Western Man, that is what matters above all else.
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I don't agree with some of this but there are a lot of interesting ideas.
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I think he is one of the best minds the real Right has.

Despite his allegiance with neocons he can be safely read by a nationalist.

And, most sadly, I think that his idea of self chosen suicide is basically right.

We are following the equality path without moderation, on the contrary this god is attracting us to precipice.
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I don't agree with some of this but there are a lot of interesting ideas.
Good article even maybe with a little too much westernist emphasis...
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Yes, and he briefly repeats the idea that Christianity has made us sheep-like compared to our pagan ancestors. This may be accurate for nations around the Baltic but it clearly not true of Ireland or many other European nations.

It is true that the modern churches can act as a fifth column when they advocate for refugees and "little black babies" from Africa. The churches have mixed up their missions to Africa with a mission to bring people from Africa to Europe. A big difference that needs to be sorted out quickly. Nevertheless, the Church was an institution friendly to the nations of Europe until only quite recently and can be again.
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The Church today would have us bend over backwards. However, it would be a mistake to think that the Church is causing this 'slackening of attitudes', it is simply following the trend, attempting to a generation that has forsaken it. The Finnish Lutheran Church was staunchly nationalist and militarist from independence to the end of the second world war.
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I think he is one of the best minds the real Right has.
I beg to differ.

He takes a case which is known and real (anyone could) and speaks much about nothing over it. I hope that he is not a lawyer. With such a line of arguments in a case which is so obviously clear, he shouldn't earn a good living. Or his customers would pay from his incompetence.

I'll state my case.

The image of The Netherlands that he denies, I'm afraid that it is much real no matter how he would like it to be different. Nearly every single Dutch that I've met was a staunch pro-Multiculturalist. Many are "refugees" here, who came to Spain looking forward to a better life away from the cesspool that they had left behind, back in The Netherlands. And yet I've had to hear them arguing that Spain was great but that we lacked a bit more of Cosmopolitanism in our cities in a clear and implicit reference to immigrants and Multiculturalism.

On one occasion, I had to tell one of them to shut his mouth up and mind his country's business, in front of a group of other people.

The economic success that he speaks about is, in The Netherlands, a long process of early Multiculturalism ever since the Sephardites first and later the Ashkenazis settled there attracted and protected by the Dutch and built up the Dutch Trade Empire.

But I suppose that, even if he doesn't believe his own words, he surely knows that others will believe them. That's what's often defined as faith.

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I have debated the issue of Vikings vs. Muslims with some Scandinavians. Some have claimed that they were the Al-Qaida of medieval Europe. But Vikings valued truth and keeping their word to maintain their honor, instead of saving face. They had blood feuds, kept slaves and raided the Christians of Europe. Yet even though the Vikings could be brutal (“Thou shalt not kill” is a Christian concept), they still had an honor codex that was tied to acts of courage.

I’ve seen many examples of gangs of Muslim immigrants attacking lone victims, homeless people, handicapped people, etc. I’m not sure the Vikings would have done that. Not necessarily because it was wrong to use violence, but because the manner would have been dishonorable. Which means that we were superior to Muslims even during our most barbarian periods.
Vikings raided unprotected towns to which they arrived without prior notice. Before an army was there to face them, they were most of the times gone.

The coasts of Galicia had to be defended by the people, because there was virtually no time to alert and raise an army for when the Vikings attacked. Asturias too was being hit, and while the kings of Asturias had to fight the Muslims, they also had to fight and to protect themselves from Viking raids.

It is recorded by the chronicles, for example, that when they went to attack the city of Seville they sailed the river Guadalquivir up while they were hiding under fur blankets to make the Viking ships look like merchant ships.

And well, I don't think that it should be necessary to dig into the habits of Vikings with respect to their own women as well as to the women of others.

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Who is 'us'? His Westernist approach clearly points to 'us' being Europe and America.

What if we review the numbers of abuses committed by U.S. troops, many of which have been reported on writing and sometimes even with video images? Let's say only since the end of Word War II.

E.g., put a picture of some Mujahideen with a head chopped off the body of an enemy, and it will be contrasted with the picture of American soldiers in Vietnam doing likewise.


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I didn't much like how the article enthusiastically sings along with the "Clash of Civilizations" choir, but there were some good points made as well. He did a good job describing the elite consensus which works against the interests of their own people.

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Nearly every single Dutch that I've met was a staunch pro-Multiculturalist. Many are "refugees" here, who came to Spain looking forward to a better life away from the cesspool that they had left behind, back in The Netherlands. And yet I've had to hear them arguing that Spain was great but that we lacked a bit more of Cosmopolitanism in our cities in a clear and implicit reference to immigrants and Multiculturalism.
A large section of the English have also picked up this attitude which can only be described as nomadic. Destroy an area and move on, betray old friends to make new friends etc.
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I didn't much like how the article enthusiastically sings along with the "Clash of Civilizations" choir, but there were some good points made as well. He did a good job describing the elite consensus which works against the interests of their own people.
There is an innate inconsistency (and hypocrisy) in blaming and criticizing the [political, economical] elites when one is in the camp of free speech and free market[eering].

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But where do such ideas about guilt originate from? I suspect they are somehow related to the Judeo-Christian strand of the West. They do not stem from the Greco-Roman or Germanic ones. Bad things could be said about Julius Caesar, but suicidal guilt definitely wasn’t his major problem. Maybe we need a touch of Roman ruthlessness as well as Christian compassion. But Western self-loathing is frequently directed against Christianity, and that is somewhat puzzling if we assume that it emanates from Christianity.
Whatever a corrupted Church may do today, Christianism in Europe has led men and nations to fight off enemies and invaders without anything about guilt.

I can only conclude that he is referring not to Christianism as in European Christendom, but to Judeo-Christian Calvinism and and influenced and derivatives.

The more that I think about it, the more that I'm coming to the conclusion that there is a geo-ethnic divide that is not related to what the nordicist constructs have us accustomed to, but which is much more profound than that and that has much to do with what's discussed just above.

If his ethno-cultural background is flawed, he should say it so and do not generalize and assume that we are all the same, the way he is doing it.
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There is an innate inconsistency (and hypocrisy) in blaming and criticizing the [political, economical] elites when one is in the camp of free speech and free market[eering].
Yes, he wants to be an Atlanticist and a grassroots nationalist at the same time, which is impossible.

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But there is more:Whatever a corrupted Church may do today, Christianism in Europe has led men and nations to fight off enemies and invaders without anything about guilt.

I can only conclude that he is referring not to Christianism as in European Christendom, but to Judeo-Christian Calvinism and and influenced and derivatives.

The more that I think about it, the more that I'm coming to the conclusion that there is a geo-ethnic divide that is not related to what the nordicist constructs have us accustomed to, but which is much more profound than that and that has much to do with what's discussed just above.

If his ethno-cultural background is flawed, he should say it so and do not generalize and assume that we are all the same, the way he is doing it.
I do think there is a strong instinct among the nations around the Baltic to consider Christianity an alien religion imposed from outside and which stops them from being their true selves. The metaphor of taming the savage beast comes up again and again. I don't think it is a coincidence that the Nordicists really seem attracted to the image of the wolf in a winter forest. I think they recognize in that image their own instinct to retreat from the noise and complications of civilization the same way the wolf retreats from the expanding metropolis of man.

The Baltic is far from Rome geographically and culturally and Scandinavia stayed outside many of the intrigues of European power politics for much of its history so many things which are considered typically European by others feel false, corrupt and alien to them.

The very worldly attitudes of the merchant cultures of London, Edinburgh and Amsterdam are another matter, but there is a link.
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