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Any one heard of Birmingham?
Yes, I've heard of Birmingham. It's a city in England, no?
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Any one heard of Birmingham?
Isn't that England's foremost Muslim town?

I even remember reading in the newspaper 15 years ago that the English in the University of Birmingham were prevented from entering the library by the Muslims, because it was a center of reunion for Muslims.

See which undergraduate degrees in Theology they offer for 2008:

TheologyAnd postgraduate studies:
Theology and Religion: Postgraduate Islamic Studies
Islamic Studies BA - Undergraduate Prospectus - University of Birmingham
Islamic Studies Joint Honours BA - Undergraduate Prospectus - University of Birmingham

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Yes it is Go and try visiting that place and have a trip to Oldham and Bradford.

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Lovely places honest..... Luckily there's only about 2.1% of the population of my country (Of approx. 3mill) from a non white background and they're only based in the 3 main cities.
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There is a large islamic community in London. But I don't know it will ever become a majority. Right now because of certain world events if you want to be rebelious you become muslim, its trend when ever something gets a lot of bad press you have people wanting to do it simply to prove how on the fring they are.
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So, tell us... What shall we do?
Somebody has their interests in this and small people cannot do nothing.
Yes, we can vote conservative, yes we can vote for right wing parties, but if somebody big (economically, politicaly or otherwise) has it's interest we cannot do nothing.
And that is what saddens me.
The fact that the small man cannot do anything to change or improve his/her country.

In the old days we could start a war or something, nowadays it's barbaric and non europaean. So the best way to act is to pray to someone or something and hope things will get better. It sucks but I don't see the other way. Muslims are coming and nobody's doing nothing... And if those muslims were like pre-war bosnian ones, that would be OK but now they are getting violent and radical. Terrorists.

Yes. Unfortunately, the "man" is at the top and we are at the botom.
But the "man" cant fight the entire bottom by himself. The propaganda is against us. I think the most we can do for now is spread awareness and doing it in a clean manner. That means with no radical or racial comments included.
"fighting" them is just pointless for the media will side with the foreigners no matter how badly we get our asses kicked.
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There is a large islamic community in London. But I don't know it will ever become a majority. Right now because of certain world events if you want to be rebelious you become muslim, its trend when ever something gets a lot of bad press you have people wanting to do it simply to prove how on the fring they are.
I see that you don't follow the news on demographic data, trends and forecast. They tell the exact opposite story, and in my opinion they still fall short of telling it all.
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its trend when ever something gets a lot of bad press you have people wanting to do it simply to prove how on the fring they are.
Unfortunately, for nationalism (which also gets some bad press) it doesn't seem to be the case, at least in our time.
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My art teacher (aged around 77-78) used to live in Bradford...
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Ah, yes. It was Bradford that is the foremost Muslim town in England, not Birmingham.
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