Youth Bulges, Violence, and the Fifth Village: “The Game is Over for Europe”

[Kalevi]

Tuesday, May 29, 2007
Youth Bulges, Violence, and the Fifth Village: “The Game is Over for Europe”

by Baron Bodissey

Below is a translation of an interview by Lars Hedegaard of the German sociologist Gunnar Heinsohn, from the May issue of the online magazine Sappho. The article was translated from the Danish by Zonka, who deserves our thanks for undertaking such a Herculean task.

Dr. Heinsohn elaborates on a theme that Mark Steyn has made familiar: the impending demographic collapse of the West, particularly Europe, and the accompanying threat from a surplus of angry young Muslim males.

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Interview: Tabernes kontinent

While the European populations are shrinking, and the best-qualified young people are leaving, we continue to allow mass-immigration of unqualified Muslims, who will soon make our welfare society collapse. Add to this the fact that the Muslim world has built up a surplus of youths, which according to experience will lead to mass-murder, and the effect cannot be helped by foreign aid. The originator of these bleak predictions is the German sociologist Gunnar Heinsohn, who believes that the game is over for Europe.

By Lars Hedegaard

BREMEN: If the leaders of the American-led “Coalition of the Willing”, had known Gunnar Heinsohn’s research, they most likely never would have left their troops in Iraq or Afghanistan. They would probably quickly abandon any thought of intervention in Sudan’s Darfur province. They would tell the Palestinian 10-children-families that the West no longer will pay for their unrestricted childbirth. Western opinion-makers and politicians would also abandon their pet theory that virtually any act of violence in a belt from Northern Africa to the Philippines in addition to miscellaneous acts of terror all over the world are caused by the unsolved Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

And worst of all seen from the prevalent political consensus in Denmark and the rest of the West: Heinsohn does not believe, even for a second, that economic aid and hunger relief in countries plagued by large youth populations can prevent wars, social unrest, terror or killings. On the contrary he is convinced that the material aid in some cases can start the killings. This is because starving people do not fight, they just suffer. However, if you give a lot of young men enough to eat and a certain education, in a society where there are too many young men so that not all can get the recognition and position that they feel entitled to, it can lead to violence.

About this the 63-year-old professor of sociology at the University of Bremen, in 2003 wrote in his sensational and quite politically incorrect book Söhne und Weltmacht: Terror im Aufstieg und Fall der Nationen [Sons and World Domination: Terror in the Rise and Fall of Nations]. The book became widely known and talked about, after the prominent German philosopher Peter Sloterdijk characterized the work as being as groundbreaking as Karl Marx’s Das Kapital. Sloterdijk thought that the book could pave the way for a new realism with in the field, one that could be called “Demographic Materialism”.

Heinsohn is not concerned about the absolute size of populations, rather the share of teenagers and young men. If this share becomes too big compared to the total population, we’re facing a youth bulge. The problem starts when the individual family puts three, four, or more sons into the world. Then they start fighting for access to the positions in society that give power and prestige. Then you have a lot of boys and young men running around filled with aggression and uncontrollable hormones. Then we get the killings, until sufficiently many have been killed and their number matches society’s ability to provide positions for them.

According to Heinsohn, 80% of world history is about young men in nations with a surplus of sons, creating trouble. This trouble can take many forms — a violent increase in domestic crime, coup d’état attempts, revolutions, riots, and civil wars. Occasionally the young commit genocide to assure themselves of the positions that belonged to those they killed. Finally, there is war to conquer new territory, killing the enemy population and replacing it with one’s own.

But, as Heinsohn emphasizes again and again, the unrest and the violent acts that the youth bulge causes have nothing to do with famine or unemployment. In his book he described it in this way: The dynamic in a youth bulge — it cannot be emphasized too often — is not caused by the lack of food. A younger brother, who as a stable hand for the firstborn son can be well-fed and perhaps even fat, does not seek food, but position, one that can guarantee him recognition, influence and dignity. Not underweight, but rather potential losers or the déclassé are pushing forward. (p. 21)

Unfortunately, the Western world in recent years is facing a gigantic youth bulge in large parts of the Muslim world. This bulge is created by a Muslim population explosion. In just five generations (1900-2000) the population in the Muslim countries has grown from 150 million to 1200 million — an increase of 800%. As a comparison the population of China has grown from 400 million to 1200 million (300%). The population of India has risen from 250 million to 1000 million (400%).

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[Errigal]

Mark Steyn is an Atlanticist Canadian marrano who chooses to speak with an English accent. He makes a living peddling the anglosphere line to anyone who'll listen and has recently branched out into this "Europe is dead" garbage. The goal of all this is simple: those who put the concerns of Israel first want all the Europeans unhappy with Muslim migrants to see Israel's problem as their problem too.

If one wants to know what neocon Jewish Americans care about, read Steyn.

[Kalevi]

Originally Posted by Errigal

Mark Steyn is an Atlanticist Canadian marrano who chooses to speak with an English accent. He makes a living peddling the anglosphere line to anyone who'll listen and has recently branched out into this "Europe is dead" garbage. The goal of all this is simple: those who put the concerns of Israel first want all the Europeans unhappy with Muslim migrants to see Israel's problem as their problem too.

If one wants to know what neocon Jewish Americans care about, read Steyn.

Thanks, it is useful to know people's ideological backgrounds. Still, instead of being concerned about the identity of the speaker, I would rather be more concerned about what is being spoken.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Kalevi

Thanks, it is useful to know people's ideological backgrounds. Still, instead of being concerned about the identity of the speaker, I would rather be more concerned about what is being spoken.

In this case the person paying the piper calls the tune. The article is meant to encourage Europeans to take part in the American/Israeli project to transform the Muslim world. We are meant to believe that when Iraq, Palestine or Lebanon is attacked the Americans or Israelis are helping us. I don't see how.

[Kalevi]

Originally Posted by Errigal

In this case the person paying the piper calls the tune. The article is meant to encourage Europeans to take part in the American/Israeli project to transform the Muslim world. We are meant to believe that when Iraq, Palestine or Lebanon is attacked the Americans or Israelis are helping us. I don't see how.

Me neither. But I mean, does that render the article's points incorrect?

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Kalevi

Me neither. But I mean, does that render the article's points incorrect?

That migration from the Muslim world is a threat to Europe? No, that is quite correct.

[Kalevi]

The main point was that the EU's current ideology of poverty being the main cause of conflict is fundamentally wrong, and implementing it will only produce conflict. Even if it's sole purpose was to make the EU to cease it's support of the Palestinians (and particularly of their reproduction) in favour of Israel, I still find it a valid one.