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Asterix and Obelix: 'not symbolic of a modern, multicultural society'. Photograph: Pathe

He is the moustached crusader bravely defending the customs of ancient Gaul from stereotyped foreigners - from Brits who drink hot water with a dash of milk to the militaristic Germans and the short Portuguese.

He has ribbed the Corsicans for being work-shy, violent and producing explosively smelly cheese, and Normandy villagers for lathering their food with cream. But now it seems that Asterix the Gaul is just too much of a "Gaul" for modern, multicultural France.

The belligerent hero is in a scrape over a new project illustrating the text of the UN charter for children's rights. When the illustrator, Albert Uderzo, celebrated his 80th birthday by offering Asterix's services to promote children's rights, France's children's ombudsman was delighted. The adventures of the magic potion-fuelled patriot have been read by three-quarters of French people.

The UN charter was duly illustrated with Asterix and his sidekick, Obelix, informing the children of Gaul of their rights in cartoons, including a bunch of children with black eyes patiently listening while they are told not to fight each other like barbarians.

But Jean-Pierre Rozenczveig, of Defence for Children International, complained that Asterix and his "Gaulish vision" were not representative of a modern, multicultural society. He said the hero "resisting the invaders" was a bad choice to defend a France "aspiring to a happy and peaceful coexistence of all its diverse groups".

The Gauls show no sign of surrender. The ombudsman, Dominique Versini, dismissed the row as a "storm in a tea-cup".
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I would happily watch my dog biting the lower parts of the "watchdogs".

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In Italy we've a motto about this kind of people: La madre degli stupidi è sempre incinta
It can be roughly translated with:The fools' mother is always pregnant
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How on earth can you be too French??

I suppose history should be re-written now.
All those Gauls and Franks and others that actually existed are too French.
Let's just pretend that France has always been a multicultural hellhole since the year zero. There, that's much better.

It's actually quite scary, when you think about it.
Not only are your birth rates negative, not only are you being replaced by foreigners, but now they are trying to erase the memory of your people from the history books.

Out of interest, what is the normal penalty for treason in France?
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Out of interest, what is the normal penalty for treason in France?
For high treason, life imprisonment and 750,000 euros of fines. For treason, 30 years of imprisonment and between 150,000 euros and 750,000 euros of fines.

Before Mitterrand the normal penalty used to be the guillotine though. The good old times...

As for myself, I have started a "Save Asterix" campaign. And I will not even bother to comment that article. Anyway, thank you for sharing, Aptrgangr.
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Even if he is "too french" ... what then?

This is not far from censureship
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For high treason, life imprisonment and 750,000 euros of fines. For treason, 30 years of imprisonment and between 150,000 euros and 750,000 euros of fines.

Before Mitterrand the normal penalty used to be the guillotine though. The good old times...
One thing the Brits got right - they still have the death penalty for High Treason.

It makes you wonder why anyone would want to reduce the penalty for treason though :?
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For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
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- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

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A clear declaration of -bad- intentions. What will be the next our "elites" will consider burdensome to achieve their goals? All libraries with history books?

What surprises me the most is that they start with that attitude so soon, when there are still many conscious French around. It reveals that there can also be an intention of humiliation of the defeated behind it, which of course deserves the loudest reaction from any French left.

Also, I don't want to look paranoid nor attack a whole people who is also victim of all this madness, but Rozenczveig doesn't sound much French to me, but rather... well, you know. Can someone confirm?
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What about the new friendly Asterix?

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Also, I don't want to look paranoid nor attack a whole people who is also victim of all this madness, but Rozenczveig doesn't sound much French to me, but rather... well, you know. Can someone confirm?
It is a Jewish name from Germany or farther east.
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It is a Jewish name from Germany or farther east.
It's a German surname written in Hungarian, the German spelling would be Rosenzweig
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Or that Tintin is too Belgian:


[edit:Oops! sorry I edited your post while trying to quote it, sorry!]
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So, the ancient inhabitants of France and their modern-day descendants (or rather a character depicting those people) are in some way offending foreigners who have no right to be there any way?

It's a crazy, crazy world.

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Or that Tintin is too Belgian:


[edit:Oops! sorry I edited your post while trying to quote it, sorry!]
Never mind. My original post was meant to look like this:

What next, Талични Том (Lucky Luke) "too cowboy" or "too stereotypical of indians"


Or that Tintin is too Belgian:


I'd also like too add: Or Alan Ford too satirirical of the classic agent genre
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I suppose history should be re-written now.
All those Gauls and Franks and others that actually existed are too French.
Let's just pretend that France has always been a multicultural hellhole since the year zero. There, that's much better.

It's actually quite scary, when you think about it.
Not only are your birth rates negative, not only are you being replaced by foreigners, but now they are trying to erase the memory of your people from the history books.
It was forseeable. History becomes a problem in a world of multiculturalism and globalization.

But this will not stop them. History re-writing, re-interpretation, and modification is nothing new.

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Or that Tintin is too Belgian:
BBC News | ENTERTAINMENT | Tintin on trial
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