Swedes keenest on ethnic minorities

[Llywarch Hen]

As for Britain and our fault for everything bad in Europe today, here's my take; We were the first to industrialise, so we were the first to experience new trends in human behaviour produced by the existence of mass industry, modern urban life, and new economic forces. We were the very first to be put through this mill, and this might explain a lot of the awful social problems we are suffering here. New possibilities were open to us, but there was still no experience of how to deal with such things. There was a degree of determinism to it, and events picked up a momentum and internal logic of their own.

We were the first to catch fire, as it were, and now we're rather burnt out, and struggling through the post-industrial age. The rest of Europe is now alight, but it's not something to blame us for! It's just something that had to happen sooner or later, and unfortunately we were apportioned this fate.

In the worst possible scenario, future historians will look back and see that it was the European peoples who were the first to enter the 'modern world', and the first to give the world electricity, steam power, internal combustion, nuclear power, computing etc. but it was too much for us all at once, and it killed us. It was then left to the Asians to carry the torch that we had passed them. Just as Sumer led the way, but was then swamped by Semites from Akkad. It seems that trail-blazers and pioneers often suffer from their precosiousness, leaving the field then open for those with a more measured pace... I hope I'm wrong there.


And the Swedes... This is sad. I don't want to believe it, but if it's true, forgive me for suggesting a possible explanation - might a hitherto isolated population on the periphery of a great landmass be somehow biologically and psychologically more vulnerable to the supposed charms of hyper-outbreeding?

[Menydh]

Llywarch, the issue of industrialisation is indeed a very sharpened knife of two edges. On the one edge we would have to examine each item on its own and again all of them in conjunction and what forces took part on it and how, and on those grounds weigh the advantages with the disadvantages. On the other edge we would have to look into the crime of wrenching the people from their homes in the small towns and villages, on occasions even provoking the migrations to the cities to feed the voracity for labour of the new industrial state, destroying the system of castes and stripping men and women from their souls.

A voracity which has not yet been satisfied and which is also a part of the reason why immigration was called in in the first place. The monster spawned in Britain and raised in America, and which has kept expanding and it is now a vortex that gobbles everything.

But this still doesn't answer satisfactorily many questions left exposed about British (then Anglo-American) Freemasonry. Nor do I request that you answer them..

Who is liable and to what extent should be open to discussion. If not for anything else, for the sake of fairness and justice. And even if deemed guilty to some extent, the thirst for justice should not be confused with revenge if not relapsing into their wrongs.

Leaving this aside for a moment, I will also say that you are the only English that I have found on political nationalist and pseudo-nationalist forums who has sought to discuss and not to spit bile. Unfortunately for you, you have been preceded by many others.

For that alone, I don't enjoy refuting you on every occasion. If this was a ground combat it would be different, but the way it is I see how it is starting to be long and painful. I look forward to fight, not to torture.

However, notice that you relapse into the same wrongs once and again. And I want to think that in part without being full conscious. A wrongs which will be the loss of others, but also your own loss.

[Erasmus]

Originally Posted by prometheus

It just means that Sweden is the most Americanized country of Europe!

I'd say the most Brazilianized country of Europe; Brazilian establishment always fomented miscegenation

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by Llywarch Hen

As for Britain and our fault for everything bad in Europe today, here's my take; We were the first to industrialise, so we were the first to experience new trends in human behaviour produced by the existence of mass industry, modern urban life, and new economic forces. We were the very first to be put through this mill, and this might explain a lot of the awful social problems we are suffering here.

Ill fares the land, to hastening ills a prey,
Where wealth accumulates, and men decay:
Princes and lords may flourish, or may fade;
A breath can make them, as a breath has made;
But a bold peasantry, their country's pride,
When once destroyed can never be supplied.

Oliver Goldsmith,The deserted village

[Heimdallr]

Originally Posted by Tennyson

I complained about this to my friend, a Finn involved in mainstream politics. He chastized me for my racist attitudes and said: "Shouldn't you be happy when all those blonde and blue-eyed Vikings have to seek refuge in Finland?"

You thereby identified a FALSE friend and a TRUE enemy...