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Which global city is in your opinion the most European and least multi-cultural? I'm thinking of the culture and atmosphere as well as the people. We can rule out Tokyo. Others are London, New York City and Paris. We could include Moscow.
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Which global city is in your opinion the most European and least multi-cultural? I'm thinking of the culture and atmosphere as well as the people. We can rule out Tokyo. Others are London, New York City and Paris. We could include Moscow.
I hope you mean "others we can rule out"...
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Of wich kind of cities are we talking about?Capitals?Economic centers?Or just multi-millions inhabitiants big cities?For the capitals,I'll say that Rome is the least corrupted.At least that's what I think.And for the big cities I'll say Naples.
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You are right Phleton,it must be Tokyo.Maybe Beijing is also a serious contender.I'm also thinking at Rio de Janeiro,you will find only Cariocas here.
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You are right Phleton,it must be Tokyo.Maybe Beijing is also a serious contender.I'm also thinking at Rio de Janeiro,you will find only Cariocas here.
Actually, I was pondering between Tokyo and Bangkok. In Bangkok there are great many Europeans, you know for which business...
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Munich?
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Which global city is in your opinion the most European and least multi-cultural? I'm thinking of the culture and atmosphere as well as the people. We can rule out Tokyo. Others are London, New York City and Paris. We could include Moscow.
Not sure to understand it well.
Of course we can rule out Tokyo, as well as New-York, since those two are not even located in Europe to begin with.
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I should elaborate. We all know Salszburg or Antwerp are clearly more European and less cosmopolitan and multi-cultural. They are not even world cities.

There are not many global cities in Europe. We may add Frankfurt. I know a Punjabi (from northern India) investment banker in London. He said people were staring at him when he walked around Frankfurt. It shows that they have either not seen many Indians and/or Frankfurt is simply not as multi-cultural as London.

For instance, San Francisco (which I would not call a global city), is much more European in character than Los Angeles. You would know what I mean if you have been to both cities.

I was reading articles about living in London vs New York City.

Here is one: London calling - Times Online

"And the reason for this is that foreigners in New York are, always, just that. The city treats even its long-term residents from abroad as visitors, welcomed on to the cocktail circuit, perhaps even to a share of a house in the Hamptons, but never to the power-broking tables at the Four Seasons. “New York is always American,” says Bill Roedy, the American who has spent the past 15 years in the UK running MTV world-wide. “Like Paris is French, Moscow is Russian, New York is American.”

That means New York is possibly less multi-cultural than London.

Read "London, on the other hand, is passport-blind. It does not have the luxury of being the de facto capital of a continental economy. So, it is international: it treats its visitors as citizens, as players."
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I should elaborate. We all know Salszburg or Antwerp are clearly more European and less cosmopolitan and multi-cultural. They are not even world cities.
I am not sure why you cited Antwerp, have you been there? It's outrageously multicultural.
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“Like Paris is French, Moscow is Russian, New York is American.”
Paris is a different thing, I would say : it's not that it is 'so' multicultural, but heavily multiracial.
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Forget Antwerp. It's a bad example.

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We all know global cities are multi-cultural and multi-racial. I'm trying to find out which cities are the least. I want to find out which has retained a greater European character. I know Moscow has many immigrants too. I cannot imagine it's as diverse as London though.

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We all know global cities are multi-cultural and multi-racial.
In my opinion, those two are somewhat different : here we have this cultural integration system, and what we call 'communautarianism' is seen negatively.

It doesn't really work, but I think that, for exemple, Muslims are more 'ostentatious' in UK than in France because of this integration policy. But in fact, it's the same situation in terms of population.

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regarding Europe the most multi-cultural cities are doubtlessly Paris and London, the least ones are all east of the the former Iron Curtain. I visited Warsaw last month and foreign people were a small, one-digit minority.
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It doesn't really work, but I think that, for exemple, Muslims are more 'ostentatious' in UK than in France because of this integration policy. But in fact, it's the same situation in terms of population.
Maybe because the majority of Muslims in London belong to ethnicities (e.g. Pakistanis) different to those in Paris (e.g. Algerians)?
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