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CAPITALISM


Capitalism is usually regarded as an economic view of the world. It is certainly that, but it is also much more than that. It is a worldview, a philosopy, a way of life that touches everything in our individual lives, in our families, in our communities and in our nations. Moreover, it is an influence that has a detrimental effect on all that we cherish.

At the core of Capitalist philosophy are two overriding ideas. The first is the idea that the Individual is the basis of Society. The second is that the most important aspect of our lives, either individually or collectively, is Economics. Furthermore, it is held that sound economics can only be had if we leave the whole field of Work and Commerce to what are called "market forces". An unthinking person might think that these two propositions seem reasonable, but once we go beyond the surface, we soon discover that quite the contrary is true.

If Society really was only made up of Individuals, we would see very quickly that this could only lead to war between any given person and everyone else. In other words, if the Individual is held to be the most important thing in a Society, it follows that the Individual must seek his own interests to the exclusion of the interests of others. The result would be that the richest, the most powerful and the most ruthless would gravitate to positions of power, whilst those who thought of and aided others would be crushed in the stampede to be the "victor" in this gladiatorial struggle.

This theory is, in fact, translated into practice. Thus, if a company boss decides that in the interests of his profits, he needs to close his factory in England – thereby making thousands unemployed and disrupting the lives of countless families – and move to Peru, he will do so. He is simply doing what a good Individualist would do. The idea of a Social and Common Good sounds alien to such a man. He is the man that constantly says "me, me, me". He will, therefore, crush smaller businesses, push small family farms towards financial ruin, seek to destroy quality workmanship in order to pave the way for mass produced garbage, and yet always proclaming that "there is no sentiment in business". This materialist, aggressive and self-centred philosophy currently dominates the Western world and, as a consequence, is destroying anything worthwhile that exists.

The Family is being uprooted because it is a social organism – it creates ties, sentiments, loyalties and a micro-version of the Common Good. It is being uprooted by the deliberate promotion of sterile couples, which goes by the name of Family Planning and Birth Control. It is being uprooted by the deliberate murder of the Unborn Child, which goes by the name of Pregnancy Termination. It is being uprooted by the deliberate murder of the Family, which goes by the name of Divorce. It is being uprooted by the sexual perversion of our children, and which goes by the name of "the gay lifestyle". This uprooting is not something that is happening by accident, nor is it something that has come about as an unforeseen side-effect. Rather it is a policy that has been implemented systematically and consistently, because it gives the lie to the idea that the Individual is the basis of Society. It is the Family that is the building block of any sane and healthy community, and this because it recognizes that Man is an individual and social being. He needs personal freedom, but he also needs social contact. A man without social contacts, without a network of support of all kinds, would be a sad and ineffective man. That is why Capitalism works to create such a man. Cities the world over are full to the brim with such men and women – leading lonely, frustrated, atomistic lives. Their contribution to Society largely of an economic nature – production and consumerism – and are thus Capitalism’s "ideal men".

And what of "market forces", that hallowed god to whom we are all told we must bow and obey? It is a god that is about as real as Peter Pan. "Market forces", in reality, is another name for that cabal which corners products and markets, manipulates supply and demand, decides and promotes "fashions" and yet all the while remains hidden. Through their organs of the media, they seek to convince people that there is no alternative. If people are poor, it is because of "market forces"; if people are living in slums or urban hellholes, it is because of "market forces"; if the mass of people are poor and getting poorer, in real terms, it is because of "market forces"; if our young people are not getting the educational and financial investment that they need and merit, it is because of "market forces"; if our old and sick are leading an existence, not a life, it is because of "market forces". And do we need to add that if these rich, manipulative and amoral swine are at the top of the pile, it is because of "market forces"? Believe it if you will, if you can. But don’t claim that this is the way things are meant to be or can be. Capitalism in theory is the creed of the conman and gangster; in practice, it is the creed that squeezes life out of a man, a family, a nation and does so claiming thereby that you are "free", that you are getting "value for money", that you have "a wide range of choice". It is a Lie in both theory and practice. It deserves to die. If it doesn’t, then Civilization will, and the unregulated and bloody law of the jungle will prevail – until there is nothing else to exploit or kill.


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COMMUNISM


Communism, just like its Capitalist cousin, is a materialist and aggressive creed. It differs from its cousin in a number of important respects, though we should not underestimate those similarities whilst seeking to grasp the differences.

Communism too places massive emphasis upon Economics, but it does not claim as a result that it is merely an economic view of the world. It says that whilst the primacy of Economics is at the centre of its creed, it nonetheless influences and moulds the rest of those aspects of our existence, which cannot be included in the economic field by any stretch of the imagination. In this sense, Communism is at once more logical and, in this limited sense, more honest.

Outside of its insistence that Economics is the driving force of History, Communism too places great emphasis on two tenets. The first is the struggle of "the people" to achieve freedom and justice; the second is upon the need to stamp out religious belief, especially Christianity. At first sight, the two do not seem linked in any real sense, with the result that the more shortsighted have suggested that one could have Communism living alongside religious belief. It is beguiling lie, but a lie nonetheless.

Few people need to be told that the history of Communism was and is the history of the shedding of blood on a greater scale and in more places than any other episode in human history. Corrupt journalists and congenital liberals try to avoid accepting this fact, or even allowing the fact to be known, but the truth of Communism’s bloody struggle has become general knowledge. As The X Files say, "the Truth is out there" – though it is remarkable how many people don’t want to acknowledge that truth.

The fact remains that Communism could only have been possible because of two things. The first and predisposing condition was humanity’s exasperation with Capitalism. After decades of ruthless exploitation, degradation, unrelenting tyranny and growing inhumanity, it was inevitable that any movement claiming to speak on behalf of "the people" would get a hearing and a following. It would be a hard-hearted and cynical man, who would not have been touched by the sight of 5 year old children being sweated 18 hours a day in dangerous factories, frequently losing limbs and life, and always living on the volcanic rim of death. Only the irreparably deformed soul could have remained unmoved by the herding of people out of their houses and off their land, in order to provide the workforce necessary in the city slums that would generate the fortunes of what are politely known as "the great families".

The second predisposing condition was that Communism or Socialism (its less honest, but equally ruthless companion-in-arms) put the struggle of "the people" at the centre of their platform. "Bread and Justice" is a powerful saying in the ears of a population starving to death, whilst chained to the machine that made the Boss man’s profits. Yet it remains an incontrovertible fact that Communism proved even more inhuman than its Capitalist cousin. It was more materialist, more aggressive, more profoundly amoral, more systematic with the result that Hell on earth became a reality for hundreds of millions of people around the world. From Russia to Cuba, from Cambodia to Angola, tens of millions had to be murdered to prove that Communism was nothing more than a sick illusion, slickly marketed by liberals and greedily gulped down by the gullible, the desperate and the intellectually neutered.

Communism promised to give "the people" political control of society, but they were pushed even further from political justice than under Capitalism. Communism promised to give "the people" everything "according to their needs", but simply reduced those needs to one: the question of how to cling to life in a world gone mad. Communism promised to bring "the people" a Golden Age, but they gave them the Age of the Gulag – where people were beaten, tortured and killed in ways so refined, diverse and imaginative that even Satan himself was impressed by Communist ingenuity. Indeed, how to kill was the only field that Communism excelled in. In everything else, from Art to Workmanship, from Agriculture to Administration, it proved itself a resounding failure. Communism promised to give "the people" freedom, but it put entire nations in manacles of steel. Communism promised "the people" that they would be the masters of their own destiny, that neither Businessman nor Priest would hold sway over them ever again. Yet the Businessman merely gave way to the Business of State, and the Priest gave way to the High Priests of the Party.

But why the atheism? Was it not a peculiar addition to the Communist litany, at least in the stages when it was seeking to achieve power? Not at all. Rather it was blindingly obvious and logically necessary. Why? Because when a man has lost his wife and children; when he has lost his friends and workmates; when he has lost his house and farm; when he has lost his community and his nation – what else does he have, but his clinging to God? Is it not true that God commiserates and consoles? Does He not give Hope to the Hopeless, and Strength to the Powerless? Does He not provide a real Humanity when Humanity itself has become inhuman? It was, therefore, the diabolical stroke of genius in Communism that it sought to tear away even this last of consolations from a weary and persecuted people. It did so by promoting the idea that ‘God’ was a capitalist invention, designed to keep the people in permanent subjection, although the history of Christianity proves quite the contrary. It was said that only the "superstitious and the backward" could believe in God, when ‘Science’ had already ‘proven’ that there was no God. It was a subtle propaganda, a believable propaganda at the time, but a lying propaganda nonetheless. It beguiled many, but it did not beguile even the majority. When, therefore, Communism achieved State power it immediately abandoned the road of persuasion through argument. If you didn’t want to be ‘free’ of God, then the Party would make you ‘free’ against your will. It was for your own good – in spite of the fact that many preferred to die grisly deaths than to receive this ‘freedom’.

Communism and Atheism were necessarily associated and linked. Communism could not survive if it were not the ‘god of the people’. It could not tolerate a rival for loyalty, for affection. It had to search out, rip up and destroy even in the inner sanctum of the soul, in order to justify its rape of the earth, and its exploitation of the people. The anti-religious rhetoric changed, the Reality never did. Communism never gave "the people" anything but a hard time, a killing time, anymore than the Capitalist gave the Individual anything other than a hard and gently-killing time. The cousins differ in their style, but agree in their objectives. They constrain in different ways, but they aim to get "the enemy" to submit. They rejoice in their common doctrine: a policy of systematic Lies in all times, in all places and in all things.


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CHRISTENDOM

Christendom is a word that is rarely found in the vocabulary of the political militant in the modern world. This is because militants do not understand that a New Christendom is not only a viable alternative to the materialist, death creeds of contemporary society, but indeed the only viable alternative. It does not seem so to many, simply because they do not know what Christendom was, or how it came about. This is hardly surprising, since there is not a man or woman alive today – no matter how old he or she is – that has ever lived in a society wholly permeated by the values and principles of the Christian religion. Indeed, no person, who has lived in the last five centuries or so, has ever lived within a truly Christian Social Order.

Christendom was not a case of Christianity imposing itself on a European society and culture. Rather, Christendom was the work of the Christian religion, which drew unto itself the remnants of the old Roman and Greek civilizations, and which had survived through the dark centuries following the collapse of the Roman Empire. These remnants – knowledge, skills, artefacts, techniques, books and manuscripts, values – were preserved in monasteries and convents, refined and reapplied in such a way as to allow the resurrection of the European peoples. In other words, Europe was a product of the Christian religion.

Find that hard to believe? Who created the universities of Europe? The Church. Who encouraged the study of medicine and the sciences? The Church. Who broke down the slave-tradition that had lingered on from the Roman Empire, and largely replaced with it a land-owning, crafts-based citizenry? The Church. Who created the ideas of the Common Good, the Just Price, the notion of Business being based on moral teaching? The Church. Who created a real social mobility, so that peasants could become professors, princes or popes? The Church. Who patronised and promoted all of the great arts and literature? The Church.

One has only to reflect seriously on the matter to see the truth of Hilaire Belloc’s contention that Europe was forged on the anvil of the Christian religion. Moreover, it explains perfectly why the enemies of Europe – from Freemasonry through to Zionism – have done everything to destroy the Church, because those enemies know better than anyone that it is the Church, founded by Christ, which ultimately blocks their road to global victory. For a generation raised on the notion of Christianity as "Social Gospel" – the dripping, liberal promotion of everything unnatural and perverse, and which is a sick caricature of Christianity – this will be a revelation. Perhaps even an absurd sounding revelation. Yet, for all that, it happens to be the truth, and a truth that can be discovered by those willing to search out books and read them.

Capitalism is, be it remembered, the society without God. The mention of His name is not illegal, nor is His worship, but everything is done to ensure that He has no influence on families and society. God is "a private notion", as though a man can oppose Usury or Abortion personally, but has no right or duty to see that his country is Usury or Abortion-free. In other words, Capitalism seeks to suffocate God by stealth.

Communism is the society against God. His name is illegal as is His worship. He has no rights, not even to be "a private notion". He is an enemy of the people; a superstition that blocks the road to a New World Order. He must be hunted down and destroyed.

It stand to reason, therefore, that our society must be a society with God. A society that takes a God’s eye view of Business, Banking and Commerce. A society that bases its call for Social Justice on the Christian Faith, not upon the illusions of Communism nor upon the ruthless greed of Capitalism. A society that promotes individual initiative and creativity for all, but does so within the framework of the Common Good. A society that shows itself truly charitable in how it deals with its citizens and neighbours, rather than reducing "charity" to glitzy, telemarathons for money-grubbing corporations and finance houses. A society that dedicates itself to Christ, and sees in the poor, the sick, the young, the old, the farmer, the artisan the reflection of Christ. If each person is treated as though he were Christ for Christ’s sake, the quality of our societal life would be transformed beyond recognition. It is truly a paradox that both Capitalism and Communism, whilst claiming to advance mankind, have only degraded, dehumanized people worldwide; whilst Christianity, which is self-confessedly other-worldly, raised man’s quality of life and gave it in abundance. It is no coincidence, then, that as the Christian religion has been progressively removed from our lives – individually and collectively – the world has become more and more unbearable, more and more stressful, frustrating, and depressing.

If the peoples of Europe, of the world, are to regain a semblance of happiness and normality, they are going to have to retrace their steps. The society without God must be rejected. The society against God must be rejected. The society with God must be embraced, acted upon and brought to fruition. The choice, then, really is one between Life and ‘Life’ as the Living Dead.
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Find that hard to believe? Who created the universities of Europe? The Church. Who encouraged the study of medicine and the sciences? The Church. Who broke down the slave-tradition that had lingered on from the Roman Empire, and largely replaced with it a land-owning, crafts-based citizenry? The Church. Who created the ideas of the Common Good, the Just Price, the notion of Business being based on moral teaching? The Church. Who created a real social mobility, so that peasants could become professors, princes or popes? The Church. Who patronised and promoted all of the great arts and literature? The Church.
More historical facts are needed on such matters, due to the fact that many associate the Catholic Church with the repression of progress, in particular in the fields of science.
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Indeed. And anybody who questions Christianity's role in scientific development, I direct you here:
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Because communism is materialism it doesnt mean that it isnt one of the worst capitalist's enemy.
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Although I agree with Holland's criticism on communism, I wonder why we insist on attacking something that has already died.

Isn't it time to stop beating the dead horse and concentrate on the living one?
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Because communism is materialism it doesnt mean that it isnt one of the worst capitalist's enemy.
Actually Communism has been one of Capitalism's best friends. Capitalists were so eager to give support to the Soviet Union. Armand Hammer was the most famous example. Henry Ford helped build many factories in Siberia(which helped jump-start Stalin's industrialization programs). It was not without reason the USSR was called "the second America" in the 1930's. Then Lend-Lease saved the USSR during World War 2. Even in the 1970s the USSR was the biggest receiver of foreign-aid from the United States.

So rather than being staunch opponents, capitalism and communism just engage in sibling rivalry.
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Actually Communism has been one of Capitalism's best friends. Capitalists were so eager to give support to the Soviet Union. Armand Hammer was the most famous example. Henry Ford helped build many factories in Siberia(which helped jump-start Stalin's industrialization programs). It was not without reason the USSR was called "the second America" in the 1930's. Then Lend-Lease saved the USSR during World War 2. Even in the 1970s the USSR was the biggest receiver of foreign-aid from the United States.

So rather than being staunch opponents, capitalism and communism just engage in sibling rivalry.
You always make such generalizing and off-point conclusions.

If some industrialist individuals support a regime which is Communist in name only, that somply doesn't mean that Capitalims supports Communism.

Also, Christianity is a religion. If you're so eager to combine Religion with Ideology, Economy, Law and Politics, you can always convert to Islam, which is from its beginnings a combination of all that.
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Yes I admit I have a tendency to do that when arguing purely off the top off my head. Its not like I can remember every little single detail in my mind.

I gave some examples to prove my basic arguments. Theres much more to this if you want me to post it. If I can I will try to see if I can get my hand on some books by Anthony Sutten, who wrote plenty of books concerning the topic. I found the one book about Soviet weaponry development being funded by Western corporations to be quite interesting. Even Solzhenitsyn openly talked about the support the Capitalists were giving to the Soviets in the 1970's. There was even a program a few years ago titled "Yanks for Stalin" which detailed more about American businesses giving financial support to the Soviet regime.

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Also, Christianity is a religion. If you're so eager to combine Religion with Ideology, Economy, Law and Politics, you can always convert to Islam, which is from its beginnings a combination of all that.
I fail to see the point of this argument Awar.
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Christianity is not ( and IMO should not be ) an entire system which encompasses all of the aspects of human life and society like Islam or Judaism does.
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If you're so eager to combine Religion with Ideology, Economy, Law and Politics, you can always convert to Islam, which is from its beginnings a combination of all that.
On the other hand, so was EVERY European society, from the pre-christian times until the Enlightenment.
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Christianity is not ( and IMO should not be ) an entire system which encompasses all of the aspects of human life and society like Islam or Judaism does.
Well it certainly is not in the sense Islam and Judaism are. Concerning politics, theres no single Christian ideal government expressed, while in Islam there is and I believe Judaism there is too. Hastings explained this to great extent when concerning Islam vs. Christianity on the national question.

Also concerning economics, theres much diversity about that. Many Catholics are supportive of capitalism(although with some adjustments) while other are not: supporting usually either Distributism or Corporatism.
Anglo-Saxon Catholics tend to support capitalism(with the exception of the Distributist movement, but even they had to engage in polemnics with fellow Catholics on economics) while Continental Catholics tend to support Corporatism.

Christianity in terms of social and political issues is not a monolith, there is diversity concerning these questions(within a wider framework of course). Even in the Middle Ages there was controversy over whether the Emperors(Holy Roman that is) had power to appoint bishops or the Pope. Many bishops sided with the Emperor, while ironically many lay aristocrats supported the Pope. This is just one example of how even when the power of the church was most powerful there was still controversy and diversity concerning political/social issues.

The point is, Christianity is a system that encompases all aspects of society; but theres much debate and controversy when concerning those issues.
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On the other hand, so was EVERY European society, from the pre-christian times until the Enlightenment.
Indeed the very notion of seperation of church and state started with Christianity; a fact often condemned by many neo-pagans and even Rousseau in his Social Contract when concerning the question of civil religion.
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