Ukrainian Poland

[Nestor]

A section of Ukrainian Ethnic territory is still found in Poland today, unfortunately Ukrainian community life is not as strong as it could be , however things are changing.

Interesting to note that the composer of the Ukrainian National Anthem - Mykhailo Verbytsky was born in Uluchi, not far from Sianok on the Sian river and died in Peremyshl. Both are currently administered by Poland.

I don't know of any other composer who was born and died on territory that is currently not part of the country he composed the national hymn for.

In Uluchi you have the oldest wooden Orthodox church in Eastern Europe - built I think in 1648. My friend's grandfather was the priest there - yet there are no sign that it was a Ukrainian church. The only sign is in Polish stating that it is the oldest wooden orthodox church in Poland.

[Ross]

Is that true that Ukrainians have stolen their un-official (?) hymn "Sche ne vmerla Ukraina" from Poles, copying "Esche Polska ne zginela"?

[Nestor]

It is a pretty close copy in many ways. Actually they even sang it to the same melody. But the Poles stole theirs from the Serbians. They have the same melody as well and similar words.

However, Verbytsky the composer wrote a new melody.

Chubynsky for writing the words (basically doing a Ukrainian version of the pan slavonic hym was exiled from Ukraine and you had the publication of the Ems Ukaz which banned the use of Ukrainian in 1876.

[bocian]

Originally Posted by Nestor

It is a pretty close copy in many ways. Actually they even sang it to the same melody. But the Poles stole theirs from the Serbians. They have the same melody as well and similar words.

Hehe, now you're pushing it. The Mazurek Dabrowskiego was written by Wybicki to the tune of a popular Polish mazurka in the late 18th century, the Serbs, Ukrainians and other Slavs 'borrowed' heavily from it.

Thus far I've seen you claim that the Pope's mother was Ukrainian and that the Polish national anthem is Serbian...some imagination you've got there.

[Ross]

bocian, the above is nothing in comparison with his claim that the first ever sub-marine was built centuries ago by Cossacks

[bocian]

Originally Posted by Ross

bocian, the above is nothing in comparison with his claim that the first ever sub-marine was built centuries ago by Cossacks

Nah, the funniest is the title of this thread.

[Vojvoda]

Originally Posted by bocian

Hehe, now you're pushing it. The Mazurek Dabrowskiego was written by Wybicki to the tune of a popular Polish mazurka in the late 18th century, the Serbs, Ukrainians and other Slavs 'borrowed' heavily from it.

Thus far I've seen you claim that the Pope's mother was Ukrainian and that the Polish national anthem is Serbian...some imagination you've got there.

Serbs(namely our King) borrowed the national anthem from the Poles but you guys can have it back now

[bocian]

Originally Posted by Vojvoda

Serbs(namely our King) borrowed the national anthem from the Poles but you guys can have it back now

Come on. with a title like 'Hey Slavs', it can't be that bad?

[Vojvoda]

Originally Posted by bocian

Come on. with a title like 'Hey Slavs', it can't be that bad?

I was kidding. It's the best anthem

[bocian]

Originally Posted by Vojvoda

I was kidding. It's the best anthem

It sure is

[Nestor]

What is interesting is that Russia used the English hymn -"God save the Queen/King" from 1816 on until it replaced it with "Bozhe tsaria khrany".

In fact the text of the first verse of Russian hymn is just a translation of the English hymn.

[Nestor]

“Wisła” (Vistula) Action was conducted in 1947 to relocate south-eastern Poland's Ukrainian, Boyko and Lemko population. Over 140,000 people mostly of Ukrainian nationality residing in south-eastern Poland at that time were resettled into places in western and northern Poland (Recovered Territories).
The goal of the action was to support Polish government in final settling of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which was active in south-eastern territories since 1944. Evacuation put the UIA into a difficult position. Without human resources and food, Ukrainian partisans were not able to face predominant Polish Armia Ludowa. In spite of difficult conditions, the UIA fought the communist army for several more years. The last relocations took place in 1951. After that the activity of the UIA in the territory of Poland ended. Some of Ukrainian insurgents fled to the Western Europe.
The direct pretext to start the action was the assassination of General Karol Świerczewski on March 28, 1947. The General died in an ambush set in Jabłonki near Baligród in Bieszczady mountains, when he was heading to military-station in Cisna. It is alleged that the ambush was set up by the sotnia (military unit) “Bira” of the UIA. However, nothing was definitely proved and some historians are more willing to claim that it was deed of NKVD.
Merely over a dozen hours after the incident Polish communist authorities took a decision to carry deportation of Ukrainian and Lemko people from the entire south-east territory of Poland. Therefore it is obvious that in the reality “Wisła” Action was a prepared in advance operation to diffuse remaining Ukrainian minority on Polish lands.
“Wisła” Action carried by the Operational Group “Wisła”, commanded by General Stefan Mossor, started at 4 a.m. on April 28, 1947. Expulsions included 140,000-150,000 people of Ukrainian and Lemko origin remaining in Poland after removals to USSR in 1944-1946, inhabiting Polesie, Roztocze, Pogórze Przemyskie, Bieszczady, Beskid Niski, Beskid Sądecki and Ruś Szlachtowska. Intelligentsia, priests and suspicious individuals were directed from places of gatherings to prisons or the Central Work Camp in Jaworzno. In this camp almost 4,000 persons were imprisoned, out of which 200 died. The remaining people were resettled into Warmia and Mazury or the western territories.
The last removals took place yet in 1952 (in Polesie). “Wisła” Action was officially closed with the ceremonial of decoration of the most deserved soldiers, which was held on the Polish-Czechoslovakian border.
The consequence of “Wisła” Action was almost entire depopulation of Pogórze Przemyskie, Bieszczady and Beskid Niski.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wisla

[Nestor]

In Krakow

Restaurants & Cafes - Ukrainian


Smak Ukraiński

Once the corks on the Soviet champagne start popping this folksy cellar can be a right laugh, but until then the atmosphere is very much left to your own making. Things go better in the kitchen where the cooks have been finely tuned in the expert craft of making warming winter food: shashlyks, steaks and potato dishes are all well made, as are of course Ukrainian signature dishes such as borscht and pierogi.


http://www.inyourpocket.com/poland/k...=3989&chid=138