National-Socialism in today's Russia (with video)

[Bogatyr]

In my spare time I made this video-clip about Russian National Socialism. I have put together many documentary pieces to give you an example of National Socialism in Russia. You will see some Russian NS leaders in this movie together with their party members. You will also see shots from RNU (Russian National Union) training camps. I called the filename Patriots Blood after the song that you hear in this video. I hope you all enjoy watching it and if you have any comments or problems downloading it post them here

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[Silas]

Very nice video!

How old are the videos that you have put together?

[Bogatyr]

Originally Posted by Kvasir

Very nice video!

How old are the videos?

If iam not mistaken some are 2002 or 2001.

[Silas]

Originally Posted by Bogatyr

If iam not mistaken some are 2002 or 2001.

Okay.

How big are RNU in Russia today?

[Bogatyr]

Originally Posted by Kvasir

Okay.

How big are RNU in Russia today?

I though it fell apart in small sections but I also though that they are co-operating today with other NS movements in Russia and with some others a brought. And they are also planning on taking the skinheads under control and educate them how not to get busted by police what to do and what not to do. Because the number of Skinheads in Russia is enourmous (people estemate around 50 - 100 thousand skinheads in major citys and small towns).I think there is some bright future their

RNU operates in 400 Russian city's and practicly every white ex-USSR county.

[Silas]

Why did it fall apart? Power struggles?

And how big is the organized movement in Russia today? Is it just Skinhead gangs or organized parties with "ordinary" members?

It is good that they go to the youth. Maybe they can convince them to stop dressing as skinheads too. The movement needs proper faces that represents it. And if they need to go in some sort of uniform then maybe the party can have their own uniform or something like that?

Originally Posted by Bogatyr

I though it fell apart in small sections but I also though that they are co-operating today with other NS movements in Russia and with some others a brought. And they are also planning on taking the skinheads under control and educate them how not to get busted by police what to do and what not to do. Because the number of Skinheads in Russia is enourmous (people estemate around 50 - 100 thousand skinheads in major citys and small towns).I think there is some bright future their

[Bogatyr]

Originally Posted by Kvasir

Why did it fall apart? Power struggles?

And how big is the organized movement in Russia today? Is it just Skinhead gangs or organized parties with "ordinary" members?

Well they have both.
I know you could not read anything whats on this site but atleast check the fotos: http://www.rnebarkashov.ru/foto01.htm and http://www.demushkin.com/p72/index.php

It is good that they go to the youth. Maybe they can convince them to stop dressing as skinheads too. The movement needs proper faces that represents it. And if they need to go in some sort of uniform then maybe the party can have their own uniform or something like that?

They already are doing it only they somewhat short on money so they also asked for money from goverment to take "hooligans" under control but they ofcourse refused.

They also have uniforms:

[Silas]

Are all of these people in the video really nationalists? It looks like it´s some kind of military camp, they even have military vehicles! I mean isn't that a little hard to get if you are just a political movement?

[Bogatyr]

Originally Posted by Kvasir

Are all of these people in the video really nationalists? It looks like it´s some kind of military camp, they even have military vehicles! I mean isn't that a little hard to get if you are just a political movement?

If you have the money everything is possible in Russia

EDIT: i also heard they have some Ex-Spetsnaz Training them
I also have not edited any footage as you can see many of them have Swatiska badges (militairy personel) and you can also see the swatiska sings in the corner of the screen originaly from their documentory's

[Silas]

Hmm, i can´t see any swastika badges on any military personel in the video.

[Bogatyr]

Originally Posted by Kvasir

Hmm, i can´t see any swastika badges on any military personel in the video.

Look more carefully. Many of them have RNU badges

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Kvasir

It is good that they go to the youth. Maybe they can convince them to stop dressing as skinheads too. The movement needs proper faces that represents it. And if they need to go in some sort of uniform then maybe the party can have their own uniform or something like that?

You are rightly concerned.

It is not only the need to offer an image. Most skinheads are attracted for the symbolism and the aesthetics, and most never evolve beyond that. When the fascination for the symbolism and aesthetics goes like the fashion trend that it is, they are left with nothing to stand for and vanish.


Bogatyr, I've seen in the first video a guy wearing a black armband with a cross like this one but with the borders in white

Does it have any special meaning in Russia?

[Laocoon]

Isn't the Jerusalem cross aka bracket cross ?

[Bogatyr]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Bogatyr, I've seen in the first video a guy wearing a black armband with a cross like this one but with the borders in white

Does it have any special meaning in Russia?

Well i have seen a video where this guy with the same cross was saying that it is a "dual swastika". And another guy was saying that he had "gods blessing" on their side. Iam not sure what the whole meaning of it is but i think it has something to do with religion.

[Bogatyr]

Originally Posted by Duchemin

Isn't the Jerusalem cross aka bracket cross ?

Well now that you say it i think it is.

http://christianity.about.com/cs/art...salemcross.htm

[-Anton-]

im sure that our grand parents and grand grand parents are delighted @ the fact that todays Russia...for which they spilt their blood fighting for now is full of ppl who do the same salute as the monsters which they fought against 60 years ago....

i cant believe this is happenning in russia...

[Menydh]

Anton, although I don't share your point, I understand your dissapointment.

I am not a National Socialist if with it we imply "Hitlerist". I am, simply, a Traditional Nationalist. Being a Nationalist implies caring for your people, and thus a will for a just social system that protects them. You could call this "national socialism", but I prefer not since that relates to a certain past time in a certain country. And yet the concept of, let's better say, "social nationalism" exists before Hitler's Nationalism Socialism and is not a trademark of Germany's NSDAP.

Caring for your people (i.e. being a Nationalist) and therefore willing to preserve them, implies a will for a degree of ethnic preservation which allows in turn for the preservation of the cultural and spiritual heritage. There is no point in preserving the ethnic component if they are to be turned into animals. Then, better dead... than red.

Yes, better dead than red because that's what Socialism did in Russia. It destroyed the soul of the Russian people, just like Capitalist Neo-Liberalism has done to other countries. It was Sovietic Atheism which has damaged the Russians, worsened by the Liberal Capitalism of today.

In my opinion there is confusion in Russia as to the identity of a Russian Nationalist movement, and I hope that the best comes out in the end. I came across one group on the internet, which I found reasonable and which defines itself as National Patriots: Paymat. But I don't have more information.

[-Anton-]

Originally Posted by Bogatyr

In my spare time I made this video-clip about Russian National Socialism. I have put together many documentary pieces to give you an example of National Socialism in Russia. You will see some Russian NS leaders in this movie together with their party members. You will also see shots from RNU (Russian National Union) training camps. I called the filename Patriots Blood after the song that you hear in this video. I hope you all enjoy watching it and if you have any comments or problems downloading it post them here

Medium Quality: Link (directly viewable)
High Quality: Link (download only)

* The Downloading of this clip in High Quality is quite troublesome if you have never downloaded before from Rapidshare. So that’s why I will give you an short instruction:

First click on the download link presented in this Thread, you will be redirected to a webpage off Rapidshare. Now you should scroll down and press on the button "Free" (all the way down in center of the screen).
You will be redirected once again, scroll down once more and you will find a timer. When the timer runs out simply click on the download link presented to you below and the download will start.

Some Screenshots:

do you know links of other videos of this type?
also...is there anywhere where i can download the song/album OR the name of the group which sings is so i can try and find it in Russia when i go there?/

thx