Richard Pipes on Russia

[Uri]

Sorry, I don't know if this has been posted yet:



Europe to Fear Russia More Than Bin Laden

The relations between the West and Russia have aggravated to such extent that the shift to another cold war could happen, U.S. renowned historian and political analyst Richard Pipes forecasted.

For Europe, Russia could be even more dangerous than the threat of Islam, more hazardous than bin Laden, Pipes told Italian Corriere della Sera Thursday.

According to Pipes, Russia takes every effort to emerge as a superpower anew and pressurize European and even global economy.

Pipes said that, in Russia, he is always impressed by the country’s hostility towards the West. Same as with the USSR, the detention tactics should be elaborated for Russia, particularly in the field of economy. For this purpose, oil companies are to stop making contracts with Russia, while the banks should cut off investments.

Predictably, Pipes strongly advocates positioning missile defense shield in Poland and Czechia, reasoning that otherwise, the Russians would continue regarding the former socialist states within the scope of their influence.

Richard Pipes (1923) is an American scholar of Poland’s origin, who specializes in Soviet and Russian history. In the 1970s, Pipes was the fiercest critic of détente, claiming it was "inspired by intellectual indolence and based on ignorance of one's antagonist and therefore inherently inept.” Pipes has written many books and is a member of several editorial boards.
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Pipes ("polish origin"? or jew...) on Russia. It remembers me the opinions of Zbigniew Brzezinski.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

You know who his son is? Daniel Pipes.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Uri

For Europe, Russia could be even more dangerous than the threat of Islam, more hazardous than bin Laden, Pipes told Italian Corriere della Sera Thursday.

According to Pipes, Russia takes every effort to emerge as a superpower anew and pressurize European and even global economy.

Pipes said that, in Russia, he is always impressed by the country’s hostility towards the West.

And I suppose that "the West" is something which we should all relate to, subjective as it is when it is being used by certain individuals.

Not to mention that it is by his personal impression that Russia must be considered as potentially "more hazardous than bin Laden".

[bombadillo]

Originally Posted by Plethon

You know who his son is? Daniel Pipes.

Daniel Pipes is one scary jew neo-con who freezes my blood each time I see him on television.

[Vranac]

Originally Posted by Uri

Richard Pipes (1923) is an American scholar of Poland’s origin...

Richard Pipes and his son Daniel are not Polish, they are Jewish extremists.

[Kernunnos]

His book on the Lenin years is good, apart from a strong defence against the idea that communism was dominated by ethnic jewish figures (ok, he couldn't admit to it and it would have been unpatriotic of him, even of honest ...).

This kind of intervention is in line with the new american and israeli policy towards Russia, so it is not a surprise, he is doing some propaganda work.

Russia rebels against the one world government roadmap, being a viable example of sovereign euiropean nation, which contrast with the plans of the globalizers.

Scary anyway, many common people will drink such stuff.

[Loorberitega Pärjatu]

Jew or not but what he writes happens to be truth.

[Kernunnos]

Originally Posted by Loorberitega Pärjatu

Jew or not but what he writes happens to be truth.

He is a good historian but you should remember that historians are also humans, and politically involved too.


I have read his book on Lenin with pleasure.

[Uri]

Originally Posted by Loorberitega Pärjatu

Jew or not but what he writes happens to be truth.

Why on earth you, estonians, still hate Russia? You are members of the EU and it's not necessary to fear about russian expansion. As I know, Estonia has a high level of life and there is a big investment so, what's the problem with your east neighbours? [ad gentem slur deleted] The future will be a cooperation between Europe and Russia.

[Uri]

Sorry for the words that were deleted..

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Loorberitega Pärjatu

Jew or not but what he writes happens to be truth.

You are begging for US based neocon Jews to use Estonia as part of a divide and conquer strategy in Eastern Europe. Brilliant.

I have far more sympathy for the Estonians than the Soviets at any period in history but I don't sympathize with people who welcome interference from neocons. It is unfortunate that you can't see how people like Richard and Daniel Pipes will only use the Baltic states to hurt Russia and then abandon you. Do you think they have forgotten which side Estonia fought on in WW2?

[Kalevi]

Originally Posted by Uri

Why on earth you, estonians, still hate Russia?

Why on earth is tiny Estonia being positioned as the national enemy number 1 in Russia? They must have done something horribly wrong, like using their newly gained sovereignity to enter into international treaties, or protecting their ethno-cultural integrity by rejecting citizenships of a large group of post-Soviet colonial trash. Or just living in a strategically important area.

The future will be a cooperation between Europe and Russia.

Thanks but no thanks, I think we here in Finland have had enough cooperation for a while.

Originally Posted by Errigal

It is unfortunate that you can't see how people like Richard and Daniel Pipes will only use the Baltic states to hurt Russia and then abandon you. Do you think they have forgotten which side Estonia fought on in WW2?

The Republic of Estonia was occupied first by the Soviets, then by the Germans and then "liberated" again by the Soviets. As a result, some Estonians fought in SS and some in the Red Army. Some fought as guerrillas for independent Estonia.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Kalevi

Why on earth is tiny Estonia being positioned as the national enemy number 1 in Russia?

Originally Posted by Kalevi

Thanks but no thanks, I think we here in Finland have had enough cooperation for a while.

Kalevi, I don't think that Uri posed a question or asked for your agreement on the issue.

He said Europe. Not Finland or Estonia. I'm not implying with this that Finland or Estonia are not part of Europe. But so is Russia part of Europe under at least the same definitions of Europe that apply to both Finland and Estonia.

And I'm not saying that it will happen either. Only that, ideally, it should happen. If it is to have a future, Europe must not be held at ransom by Finno-Ugric atavism.

[Kalevi]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

National enemy = enemy of the nation. What's so odd with that?

Kalevi, I don't think that Uri posed a question or asked for your agreement on the issue.

I don't think that either. He expressed his vision of the future of Europe, and as a member of a European nation I refused to support it. That's all.

And I'm not saying that it will happen either. Only that, ideally, it should happen. If it is to have a future, Europe must not be held at ransom by Finno-Ugric atavism.

No, I'm not asking others to support sacrificing their national sovereignity in the benefit of ours. But I ask the same in return.

The honest thing to do is to admit that we don't have common interests in this regard.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by Kalevi

National enemy = enemy of the nation. What's so odd with that?

Do you actually say that Estonia is being perceived as the national enemy number one in Russia?

Originally Posted by Kalevi

No, I'm not asking others to support sacrificing their national sovereignity in the benefit of ours. But I ask the same in return.

Do you think that any cooperation equals sacrificing national sovereignity? Doesn't have to be at all.

Do you think that a Chinese wall against Russia is a good idea?

[Kalevi]

Originally Posted by Marulus

Do you actually say that Estonia is being perceived as the national enemy number one in Russia?

I don't have references for this right now, but yes I am. I think there was a survey done in Russia about this with Estonia ending as the most hated country in the world. They're being labelled as "the last Nazis of Europe" and "fascists" by the state-controlled media and their lovely youth-organization Nashi.

Here's a few examples:
Europe.view | The truth about eSStonia | Economist.com
If you're a real Russian, don't have any fun in Tallinn

Do you think that any cooperation equals sacrificing national sovereignity? Doesn't have to be at all.

Cooperation is possible when a number of players share at least partially the same goal, and think they can benefit from working together. But when some players have an essentially better position, it can become one-sided dependency.

What we have here is Europe that wants to secure it's supply of energy (and potentially, get rid of dependency from the US), and Russia that possesses the energy and wants to establish itself as an influential great power again. As the world's energy supplies are getting sparse, the market will be a sellers market. You do the counting.

In Finland, what do we have left from the period of Soviet influence? Pre-programmed, useful idiots working in "peace movements" who used to oppose Finnish, European and American military to the last breath (and still do) but shouted idiotic slogans like "A Soviet missile is a missile of peace". A generation of Soviet-sympathizing radicals from the 70's that gradually penetrated every aspect in society. A generation of corrupt politicians who used to search for a boost in their careers from the Soviet embassy (in the Soviet era, every decision of a slight importance was circulated there).

In the late Soviet time these were just young radicals, and before the death of president Kekkonen in 1984 'things were in control' so to say, but now they run the country. And we'd be damn better to get rid of them before we'll have another superpower feeding us with gas and oil just behind our backyard - a superpower built by an ex-officer from the Leningrad KGB that orignally machinated them.

Do you think that a Chinese wall against Russia is a good idea?

Frankly I don't, and I would prefer the situation to be different. But in this regard the Russian Federation is sawing it's own branch by sending a message that it poses a threat to the security of it's neighbors.