More modern Aethiopid examples

[Galmudug]

A frontal picture of the former president of Ethiopia, very representative example of an Aethiopian, much alike to the much hated dictator Menelik.


Menelik, the Abyssinian.

Former president of Somalia, President Muhammed Siad Barre, who is a true representative of an eastern Cushite.


It would be interesting to compare the Abyssinian royal family (Primarily Aethiopians) to that of the founding fathers of the modern republic of somalia and Ogaden (Western somalia), NFD.

Two plates of the Abyssinian royal family (Aethiopian)



Founding father's of the republic of somalia (Cushites)


One needs to fully understand that their has always been a struggle between Cushites and Aethiopians in the Horn of Africa, and that struggle is still taking place today in many ways.
Although recently it may appear that the conflict is taking place in the form of religion, it must be noted that it is race/ethnicity itself that drives the conflict.

Somalis (as well as afars, and some segments of the Oromo peoples) can in fact be called the last of the Cushites.
The biggest threat that the Cushites have ever faced in their long 7, 000 year old history has infact come about very recently from the ever expanding and ruthless Aethiopians who outnumber Cushites by far, who only 120 years ago were only confined to the borders of Sudan.


Note that i never added haile selassie, because he's origins are Cushitie rather that Aethiopian.

Aethiopians have managed very well to violate various cushite peoples that they have oppressed and to a large extent colonised, that is why many of them disturbingly would claim Cushitic tribes as the basis of their Origins.

[Stan]

liya kebede





gelila bekele



i don't know about you guys, but i see a similarity to queen nefertiti in features and bone structure, except nefertiti would of had lighter skin

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Stan

i don't know about you guys, but i see a similarity to queen nefertiti in features and bone structure, except nefertiti would of had lighter skin

That's the "theory" of the Negrocentrists, that she was Negroid and thus the ancient Egyptian Civilisation was a Black African one. On a similar line, the "theory" of the Nordocentrists is that she was Nordoid and thus the ancient Egyptian Civilisation was a Nordo-Germanic one.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Galmudug

One needs to fully understand that their has always been a struggle between Cushites and Aethiopians in the Horn of Africa, and that struggle is still taking place today in many ways.
Although recently it may appear that the conflict is taking place in the form of religion, it must be noted that it is race/ethnicity itself that drives the conflict.

You are just mixing up tribalist rivalry and anthropology, in my most humble opinion.

[Galmudug]

Menydh, it won't be fair to describe it as just a mere tribal rivalry.
It is a religious and racial rivalry to a certain extent, Cushites Vs Aethiopians.
The majority of the Cushite peoples who normally were pagans converted to Islam as early as the 12th century whilst Aethiopians converted to Egyptian Coptic Christianity.


A statute of Ahmed Gurey, the somali that brought the Aethiopians to their knees.

Muslim Somalia enjoyed friendly relations with neighbouring Christian Ethiopia for centuries. Despite jihad raging everywhere else in the Arab world, Somalia promised never to attack Ethiopia. The fact that Ethiopia has some of the most forbidding natural terrain in the world didn't hurt the peace effort. Unfortunately, in 1414 an aggressive Aethiopian king, Yeshaq I, came to the throne and launched a war against Somalia and Djibouti. His campaign was successful, and the Somali king was executed. King Yeshaq had his minstrels compose a song praising his victory, which contains the first written record of the word "Somali".
The Somalis lived under Ethiopian domination for a century or so. However, starting around 1530 under the charismatic leadership of Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey or left-handed in Somali), they retaliated. Regrouped Muslim armies marched into Ethiopia employing scorched earth tactics and slaughtering every Ethiopian they could get their hands on. The complete annihilation of Ethiopia was averted by the timely arrival of a Portuguese expedition led by Pedro da Gama, son of the famed navigator Vasco da Gama. The Portuguese needed help with their activities in the Indian Ocean so they formed an alliance with their fellow Christians, and a joint Portuguese-Ethiopian force defeated the Muslim army on February 21, 1543 at the Battle of Wayna Daga, and Ahmed Gragn was killed in battle.
Ahmed Gragn's widow married Nur ibn Mujahid in return for his promise to avenge Ahmed's death, who succeeded Ahmed Gragn, and continued hostilities against his northern adversaries until his death in 1567; the Ethiopians sacked Zeila in 1660. The Portuguese, meanwhile, established a major economic colony in Somalia, primarily engaged in textile manufacturing. The sultanate disintegrated into small independent states, many of which were ruled by Somali chiefs. Zeila became a dependency of Yemen, and was then incorporated into the Ottoman Empire.

Menydh, ask an Aethiopian he's origins, believe me he won't have a clue and would start giving out fabricating tales and funny ones mind you.
Yet ask a Somali he's origins and you would have a very clear and accurate answer that goes back as far as 900 years.


The last victims of the Aethiopians (Abyssinian's) were the Afars (Cushites) however before them were the Oromos (Cushites), but their first victims were the Agew (the once proud highland Cushites (now made extinct).
Only the somalis have the will and the purpose to confront these Aethiopians head on.

Stan, liya kebede is an Oromo (Cushite) not an Aethiopian thus i will not be surprised if she resembles Queen nefertiti.
However i believe that it is Imaan, the somali born supermodel that comes to the closest to resembling Queen nefertiti.


It was only charles Coon that picked up the strong differences between Cushites and Aethiopians. Much of the confusion now comes about because Aethiopians have mixed alot with Cushite peoples in Ethiopia through continuous rape and pillage.

[Galmudug]

More examples of Aethiopians (Amhara)















Lets compare them to the ethnic Somalis, who are prime examples of Cushites













Now can anyone have some sort of understanding why it is misleading to keep grouping somalis and other related Cushites as Aethiopians.
There is defiantly no relationship of somali's with Aethiopians, it makes my blood boil when people keep referring somalis as Aethiopians or Ethiopids

[Stan]

Originally Posted by Menydh

That's the "theory" of the Negrocentrists, that she was Negroid and thus the ancient Egyptian Civilisation was a Black African one. On a similar line, the "theory" of the Nordocentrists is that she was Nordoid and thus the ancient Egyptian Civilisation was a Nordo-Germanic one.

Well I wasn't saying she was negro. I just see similarities in the bone structure and overall features. The negrocentrists are usually confused americans who don't even understand the complexity of different ethnic groups in africa. It's a mystery why people debate the ethnicity of the egyptians to me anyway. Enough can be seen in historical documents and art, and in the current people of egypt all the way down the red sea coast to the horn of africa.

[Galmudug]

One last point which i believe is essential for Anthropologist to bear in mind, that is Ethiopia itself is not one nation but rather a prison of many nations oppressed by successive Abyssinian (Aethiopian) expansions, which was only restricted to the Sudanese border in 1870 but today with various European powers have managed to reach as far as Ogaden (Western Somalia) and Southern Somalia, Northern somalia.

The problem here is that Cushites have mainly converted to Islam as recent as the 12th century and they find themselves battling Aethiopians who are backed by powerful western nations just to attain their own liberty.

Afars (With a small 2 million population), who are the closest relatives of the somalis, are today the worst hit by the barbaric nature of the Aethiopians.





Among the Cushites, it is only the somalis, who have the will and the man power to confront Aethiopian expansion and aggression head on.

As this video demonstrates.

+ YouTube Video

It is fortunate that a somali like myself can provide real and accurate information regarding this matter.

I have started a campaign to encourage Anthropologist to ditch the word Aethiopian when describing Cushite peoples, especially somalis and Afars.
Believe me calling a somali an Aethiopian amounts to insult and is nothing short of calling a somali a Nigger or any other offensive word.