Islam religion of peace

[Carnyx]

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[Cirrus]

Interesting.

Anyway, I don't think that those who made the video (Israel News - - Infolive.tv, an Israeli Web-TV) really care about Europe. It's always the same thing they say about Islamists, you know...

- Do you not believe in Democracy ?

- No, I don't, at all

Shocking.

But unfortunately, it's a "law of nature" : the strong (demographically and spiritually) rules over the weak. And democracy or other systems can do nothing against it.

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Cirrus

Anyway, I don't think that those who made the video (Israel News - - Infolive.tv, an Israeli Web-TV) really care about Europe. It's always the same thing they say about Islamists, you know...

Indeed, they don't. They just aim at alienating the Europeans hostile to Islam.

[Weltschmerz]

- Do you not believe in Democracy ?

- No, I don't, at all

Originally Posted by Cirrus

Shocking.

But unfortunately, it's a "law of nature" : the strong (demographically and spiritually) rules over the weak. And democracy or other systems have nothing to do with this.

I'm not sure what you mean, but IMO it is not a natural law. Democracy, especially in liberal states, raise the spiritually weak to positions of rule. And this is all in accordance with some of the findings in development psychology. James Fowler, author of Stages Of Faith, have found that people generally prefer leaders who are mediocre. This in turn is explained by the fact that the majority is mediochre in terms of individual development as well as in terms of IQ etc. In a democracy, people are most likely to elect leaders who are mediochre for another reason as well. People prefer someone not so clever to rule them, because intuitively such a person does not impose a threat to them. That idea is however flawed intuition, I'm afraid. Take a look at this guy:









He ruled Sweden for ten and a half years and caused serious harm in the process. Unless you put strong = ruler, I really see no reason to think of him as a strong person. Have you submitted to nitzscheanism?

[Cirrus]

Originally Posted by Seekers

I'm not sure what you mean, but IMO it is not a natural law.

Yes, it wasn't clear (I edited my post).

What I meant was that in the case of Islam and Muslims (in Europe), their demography and spiritual system make them strong (compared to the weakness of most Europeans). And this is why it doesn't matter if most of Muslims are against democracy or not, because "the stronger will rule" anyway.

But anyway, I concur with your analysis about this bad aspect of democracy :

Originally Posted by Seekers

that people generally prefer leaders who are mediocre

[Weltschmerz]

Originally Posted by Cirrus

What I meant was that in the case of Islam and Muslims (in Europe), their demography and spiritual system make them strong (compared to the weakness of most Europeans). And this is why it doesn't matter if most of Muslims are against democracy or not, because "the stronger will rule" anyway.

This I agree with very much. It seems that we - collectively speaking, as opposed to Islamism - need to come to a point of crisis to wake up. We are already in a deep crisis, but it is not manifest politically and socially on a grand scale in terms of national awareness. Change is subtle and comes in many stages that most people don't even know of. Very dangerous. People are also confused about who is who, because the state so often has an agenda contrary to national awareness.