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It always surprised me how recurrent is European culture in Anime, from a couple of dedicated episodes in the most popular series to fully European-themed ones like A dog of Flanders, Adventures of Little El Cid or Lady Oscar. It's, in my opinion, very helpful to understand how we are perceived from a so distant nation as it is Japan. Besides, taking into account how big is the impact of Japanese animation around the world, you might agree with me that it can work as a perfect "stereotyper" in some occasions, at least among the youth.

For example, let's see how they exhibit the French "good manners" in two episodes of Ranma 1/2 ():

Bonjour, Furinkan

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female anime carachters are often depicted as having long blond curly hair such as Lady Georgie, Lady Oscar, Candy Candy, Sandybelle etc.
Some of those animes are rather accurated on a certain degree. You can imagine that all those japanese tourists compulsively taking pictures are actually anime/manga authors seeking for inspiration.
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Except for the pigmentation, there's no real difference morphologically between Japanese and Europeans. It's not always the case nonetheless, Japenese can also appear depigmented in their anime.
Actually, I think pigmentation doesn't matter much, the body they give to their characters are not really those of Europeans but Japanese most likely.
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Some of those animes are rather accurated on a certain degree.
Do you say it for Gunslinger Girl? I heard that in that serie there appeared a terrorist group named Padania Republic Faction (there's a good description about it in Wikipedia) which objective doesn't need much explanation. Funnily, one of their leaders was named Pinocchio. Moraleja (moral?), all Padanians are violent people and compulsive liars.

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Except for the pigmentation, there's no real difference morphologically between Japanese and Europeans. It's not always the case nonetheless, Japenese can also appear depigmented in their anime.
Actually, I think pigmentation doesn't matter much, the body they give to their characters are not really those of Europeans but Japanese most likely.
in the older productions like the Tatsunoko's ones (Kyashan, Hurricane Polymar) the carachters are distinctly western looking, From the 80s and onwards the carachter design became more cartoonistic oriented.

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Do you say it for Gunslinger Girl? I heard that in that serie there appeared a terrorist group named Padania Republic Faction (there's a good description about it in Wikipedia) which objective doesn't need much explanation. Funnily, one of their leaders was named Pinocchio. Moraleja (moral?), all Padanians are violent people and compulsive liars.
those are more of a Neapolitan thing but there are no anime set in Naples I bet because the Japaneses had all their cameras stolen
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Emma: A Victorian Romance, a serie which takes place entirely in the London of 1885.

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And another appearance of France, this time in Yakitate, an hilarious serie about bread-makers who participate in contests.

The World Watches!! The Contestants at the Start of the Monaco Cup!

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Btw, the tournament continues in the following episodes with different European teams.
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Lupin III: its protagonist is the grandson of Arsène Lupin, a fictional caracter created by French novelist Maurice Leblanc.

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Our Alsatian friend might be interested to take a look at this OVA, since I recall him having a famous quote of Napoleon on his signature and this episode deals with Napoleon's dictionary.

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Throughout the TV series, Lupin has often (mis-)quoted Napoleon when faced with an impossible task - "The word 'Impossible' isn't in my dictionary". The idea for this film is probably a reference to Lupin's fondness for the expression. (The original quote was "'Impossible' n'est pas français" - 'Impossible' is not french.)
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Heidi, who didn't hear about her? Certainly the best example that old series used to promote good values. Btw, this story was originally written by Swiss author Johanna Spyri on the XIX century.

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3000 Leagues in Search of Mother (known simply as "Marco" in some countries), based on "Heart", a novel written by Italian novelist Edmondo de Amicis:

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The Adventures of Little El Cid, a story about the chilhood of Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar much before being known as El Cid.

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Opening of the DVD re-edition (notice the deleting of historical references):

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A dog of Flanders, it's based on the novel of the same name, written by Marie Louise de la Ramée on the XIX century. It's very clear the Japanese had an obession with old European novels.

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Lalala Lalala Zingen Zingen Kleine Vlinders
Lalala Lalala Zingen Vlinders Lala
Lalala Lalala Zingen Zingen Kleine Vlinders
Lalala Lalala Zingen Vlinders Lala
And I wonder, is it actually Flemish or Dutch?
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According to Street Fighter II: V, that's how a trip to Barcelona can be like if you don't know where you are going to. Not a tourist lure for sure. And btw, cutting a bull's ear is not to be given as a present to a woman, it's taken by the matador as a "trophy" if the battle has been neat (meaning that the bull didn't suffer a painful death).

The Bloodthirsty Prince: Obsession with Beauty. Danger for Chun-Li!

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The war of the Two Heroes. A Battle for Life, Pride, and the Princess

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The True Ruler Appears: The Horrible Conqueror begins to Plot

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The Order of the Tyrant: The Conspiracy, that Snuck Up

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In Samurai Champloo there's a Dutch samurai who happens to be homosexual (fortunately they did not add something related to marijuana).

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