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  • "The Christian myths were first related of Horus or Osiris, who was the embodiment of divine goodness, wisdom, truth and purity...This was the greatest hero that ever lived in the mind of man -- not in the flesh -- the only hero to whom the miracles were natural because he was not human." 1
  • "...I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me." Hosea 13:4, King James Version. This passage may have an additional and completely different meaning from that usually assigned.

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About Yeshua of Nazareth: He is commonly referred to as Jesus Christ, although Joshua would be a more accurate translation of his first name. "Christ" is not his last name; it is simply the Greek word for "Messiah," or "anointed one." Theologians have discovered about 50 gospels which were widely used by Jewish, Pauline and Gnostic groups within the early Christian movement. Only four of these were chosen by the surviving group, Pauline Christianity, and were included in the Bible. Those four Gospels describe Jesus as a Jew who was born to a virgin in Palestine circa 4 to 7 BCE. He is portrayed as a rabbi, teacher, healer, exorcist, magician, prophet, and religious leader who had a one year (according to Mark, Matthew and Luke) or a three year (according to John) ministry in Palestine, starting when he was about 30 years old. Most Christians believe that he was executed by the Roman occupying army, visited the underworld, was resurrected, spent 40 days with his disciples, and then ascended to heaven. Most Christian denominations view Jesus as God, and as the Son of God, the second person in the Trinity.|

Conservative Christians view the Gospels as being inerrant whose authors were inspired by God. The Gospels and other passages in the Bible are mostly interpreted literally. Muslims revere Jesus as a great prophet -- next only to Muhammad in importance. They regard the assertion that Jesus is God to be blasphemy.

About Horus: Various ancient Egyptian statues and writings tell of Horus, (pronounced "hohr'-uhs;" a.k.a. Harseisis, Heru-sa-Aset (Horus, son of Isis), Heru-ur (Horus the elder), Hr, and Hrw), a creator sky God. He was worshipped thousands of years before the first century CE -- the time when Jesus was ministering in Palestine. 2 Horus was often represented as a stylized eye symbol, symbolizing the eye of a falcon. He was also presented "in the shape of a sparrow hawk or as a man [or lion] with a hawk's head." 3 He is often shown as an infant cradled by his mother Isis. He was considered to be the son of two major Egyptian deities: the God Osirus and and the Goddess Isis. In adulthood, he avenged his father's murder, and became recognized as the God of civil order and justice. Each of the Egyptian pharaohs were believed to be the living embodiment -- an incarnation -- of Horus. 4

Isis with Horus 5 Horus 5

"A list of the names of all the gods of Egypt would fill pages. But all these gods were only forms, attributes or phases of Ra, the solar god, who himself was the supreme symbol or metaphor for God....Horus, the son of Osirus and Isis, is himself an aspect of Ra." 6

Life events shared by Horus and Jesus

Stories from the life of Horus had been circulating for centuries before Jesus birth (circa 4 to 7 BCE). If any copying occurred by the writers of the Egyptian or Christian religions, it was the followers of Jesus who incorporated into his biography the myths and legends of Horus, not vice-versa.

Author and theologian Tom Harpur studied the works of three authors who have written about ancient Egyptian religion: Godfrey Higgins (1771-1834), Gerald Massey (1828-1907) and Alvin Boyd Kuhn (1880-1963). Harpur incorporated some of their findings into his book "Pagan Christ." He argued that all of the essential ideas of both Judaism and Christianity came primarily from Egyptian religion. "[Author Gerald] Massey discovered nearly two hundred instances of immediate correspondence between the mythical Egyptian material and the allegedly historical Christian writings about Jesus. Horus indeed was the archetypal Pagan Christ." 7

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Interesting to read, but how much truth is there?
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Stories from the life of Horus had been circulating for centuries before Jesus birth (circa 4 to 7 BCE). If any copying occurred by the writers of the Egyptian or Christian religions, it was the followers of Jesus who incorporated into his biography the myths and legends of Horus, not vice-versa.
Why not? Others did it.

Justin Martyr (160 A.D.) wrote in his Dialogue of Justin and Trypho:

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All that "researches" about the relation of Christianity and previous pagan religions are almost all crap. The most well-known of that "researches" is The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors. Lots of laughs insured.
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Interesting to read, but how much truth is there?

I suppose the same as UFOs rescuing Hitler and company from Berlin and taking them to Antartic.
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All that "researches" about the relation of Christianity and previous pagan religions are almost all crap.
No, it is not crap if the research is serious. Before Christianity came, people had some knowledge of God, because man was created at the image of God and retained some knowledge form his divine Father. But those partial knowledges of God (pagan religions, Buddhsim, Hinduism) were distorted by Devil.
Only when Jesus Christ came, people attained the supreme Truth. Anyone who knows about the truth of Jesus Christ, does a grave error if he does not accept it.

However, those who lived before the advent of Christ and were not in position to know the truth, may have some excuse. The same applies to those who lived after the advent of Christ, but were never reached by the Christian message.

The demons knew Christ would come and they mocked it...htat is how these other "savours" (like Horus) came into being.
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Only when Jesus Christ came, people attained the supreme Truth. Anyone who knows about the truth of Jesus Christ, does a grave error if he does not accept it.
sounds to me like dictatorship
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sounds to me like dictatorship
And it seems to me you would like to establish dictatorship of your own religion, Darwinism?
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I suppose the same as UFOs rescuing Hitler and company from Berlin and taking them to Antartic.
There's a novel called "Genesis" about UFO's , Nazis and Antarctica.
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just answer the question
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just answer the question
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Why not? Others did it.

Justin Martyr (160 A.D.) wrote in his Dialogue of Justin and Trypho:

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All that "researches" about the relation of Christianity and previous pagan religions are almost all crap. The most well-known of that "researches" is The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors. Lots of laughs insured.
Is it so hard to believe that Christians might have borrowed parts of their religion from other religions before them? Where in the Bible are the details of Jesus' ministry prophesied, such as his miracles such as, turning water into wine, raising the dead?
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The demons knew Christ would come and they mocked it...htat is how these other "savours" (like Horus) came into being.

oh, come on, you are nor giving credit to the myth of Horus, are you?
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oh, come on, you are nor giving credit to the myth of Horus, are you?
C'mon, don't tell me you have something against the good ol' Horus...
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