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Church should expel racists and BNP supporters, says CRE chief


Churches should expel racists and supporters of the British National Party from their pews, the head of the Government's race watchdog said today.
Trevor Phillips called on bishop and priests to refuse communion to racists and turn them into "pariahs and outsiders".


The chief of the Commission for Racial Equality asked: "Will the churches support any priest or minister who says I will not administer the sacrament to someone who blatantly rejects Christ's teachings?"
His call, made in a speech to churchmen, came in the wake of the courtroom acquittal of BNP leader Nick Griffin on charges of inciting racial hatred.
Griffin had been recorded making a speech in which he claimed Asian men were drugging and raping white girls in a Muslim plot to make Britain an Islamic republic.
Mr Phillips won immediate support from the Church of England, which said that no-one should take communion who would ban others from church on racial grounds.
The CRE chief said at a conference run by the Evangelical Alliance, a grouping that includes many of the country's black churches, that the churches should have condemned the BNP leader.
"If ever there was a moment for hellfire and damnation, this was it," Mr Phillips said. "At the very least, every pulpit this Sunday should have been ringing with denunciation, ministers and priests crying 'not in our name'.
"The far right should not be able to claim Christ to their cause. But they will do if we let them."
He added: "I feel rage that my church might expect me to be in communion with such as Nick Griffin. This is where Christ puts us to the test.
"In the end it is Christians who decide who shares their fellowship, and who is excluded."
Mr Phillips asked: "Are we ready to use weapons of faith to turn these people into pariahs and outsiders?"
The plea to the churches comes at a time when the British National Party has tried to make common cause with fringe Christian groups and its activists have joined demonstrations against performances of Jerry Springer the Opera, a play that many Christians find blasphemous.
Far right groups see an opportunity for gathering support among Christians who feel their beliefs are under attack.
The Church of England responded to Mr Phillips' speech with sympathy.
The Right Reverent Nick Baines, Bishop of Croydon, said: "Holy Communion has two parts: communion with God and communion with other Christians. This includes not only the local congregation, but all Christians of all ethnicities and backgrounds."
He added: "Anyone who receives bread and wine should be aware that 'anyone who eats and drinks without recognising the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself'.
"Anyone who wishes to select who might receive Holy Communion on social or ethnic grounds, should find no place at the table."
The bishop said that "BNP members might remember that Jesus Christ was a Middle Eastern Jew."



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Archbishop admits Church may have to re-think women priests


The Archbishop of Canterbury was plunged into trouble today after suggesting that the Church of England may one day sack its women priests.
Dr Rowan Williams said that he could "just about envisage" a time when Anglicans "thought again" about women in holy orders.
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His interview with a Roman Catholic journal ended in an angry row as the Archbishop issued a statement which insisted the reporting of his remarks had been "wilfully misleading".
Dr Williams's statement said he had denied three times during his interview that he wanted to re-open the issue of women priests.
And his remarks on women provoked a backlash from feminists inside the Church of England.
One member of the Church's ruling cabinet, the Archbishops' Council, expressed "disappointment" with Dr Williams' apparently lukewarm attitude to women priests.
Dr Williams spoke to the Catholic Herald in advance of a trip to Rome for talks with Pope Benedict. His audience with the Pope is likely to be overshadowed by the continuing dispute between the Vatican and Lambeth Palace over the CofE's women priests and its intention shortly to appoint a first woman bishop.
During lengthy questioning over his attitude to women priests, the Archbishop was asked whether there would be any going back on the CofE decision 14 years ago to ordain women.
He answered: "I don't see how there can be."
But he added: "I could just about envisage a situation in which over a very long period the Anglican Church thought again about it, but I would need to see what the theological reason for that would be and I don't see it at the moment.
"I don't think, practically, there is going back."
Dr Williams also appeared to show a lack of enthusiasm for the work of women priests.
He said of women's ordination: "I don't think it has transformed or renewed the Church of England in spectacular ways.
"Equally, I don't think it has corrupted or ruined the Church of England in spectacular ways. It has somehow got into the bloodstream and I don't give it a second thought these days, in terms of regular worship."
The fallout from the interview yesterday, however, was spectacular. Dr Williams issued a highly unusual personal denial of reports saying he wanted to "rethink" women priests.
The Archbishop said: "From the very beginning of this issue I have been a supporter of the ordination of women and have not doubted the rightness of that decision or the blessings it has brought. It has been a difficult road for the Church and the cost of that decision has been a heavy one and that has been a test.
"I made it clear in the interview with the Catholic Herald and will continue to do so that I see no theological justification for any revisiting of this question and indicated in the interview three times that I had no wish to reopen it, whatever technical possibilities might theoretically exist."
He added: "The presentation of this to mean anything else is wilful misinterpetation. My convictions mean that I feel nothing less than full support for the decision the Church of England made in 1992 and appreciation of the priesthood exercised."
But the damage to the Archbishop's reputation among Anglican liberals appeared to have been done.
Dr Williams has lost the support of many since he came to Lambeth Palace nearly four years ago appearing to favour the gay rights agenda in the Church - and then forced gay cleric Canon Jeffrey John to turn down the offer of a bishop's job.
The Archbishop has since defended the conservative line that active homosexuals may not be priests while the worldwide Anglican Communion has begun to collapse around him.
Now he appears to have offended Church feminists. Christina Rees, a leading campaigner for the consecration of women bishops and a member of the Archbishops' Council, said yesterday: "I don't think Rowan would argue with me and thousands of women in the Church that women priests have made a profound and far-reaching difference.
"We all know that it makes all the difference in the world to have a woman priest at times of funerals and marriages. There has been a new light and depth to the ministry that only women can bring."
She added: "I am disappointed that Rowan has not highlighted the profound effect of women's ministry."



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Yes, this always happens with protestands.....but unfortunetely our Church is very anti racist tooo

We must resist....
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I gotta nothing against feminism but multiculturalism is diffrent as it could imply Christiandomm accepting into his dogma elements of foreign faiths (islam, judaism) and even granting them a degree of tolerance that they are not ready to grant us in exchange.
Same as the permission many European cities grant to build mosquees whence they will never accep christians building a church in villages of mosleem countries!!!
I used to freuqent an evangelical church (I'm rather inclined to the protestant side) but the preachers always made me sic as they often appraised too much the jews! I don't expect them becoma anti-jewbut I never could understand why being so admirative to them (Are jews who actually finance the small "protestant" movements???)
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