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[Milesian]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

I was not talking about Rats but about CATS created in GOd's image

So let me make sure I'm getting this right now - CATS are created in God's image?
Since when? I'm assuming you are referring still to the Christian God?
If so, then what is your source for this?

Well, it is not the first time that the Church make theological conclusions with no connection to what it is written into the Bible and that evan are contrary to what is written in the Bible.

Examples?

It is very well known that the Church has not hesitated to assimilate and transform elements of popular folklore and pagan mythology into elements of Judeo-chrisitain mythology.

You think that is a bad thing? Why?
I would think that is more benevolent than eradicating them altogether, no?
It hints that the Church prefered to attempt to assimilate and preserve that whch was not in conflict with itself, rather than simply destroy cultures for the sake of it.

Moreover, the biblical account of the creation of the world or the deluge flood are nothing more than recreations of older mesopotamian myths such as Gilgamesh epics and other...

In fact, you can find flood stories and similar creation legends all over the length &breadth of the world.
Does this then not hint at some kernel of truth in them all, when they all share similarities despite being seperated over great distances & having little/no contact with each other?

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Milesian

Examples?

well, the fact tha catholics made statues of the saints and of holy Mary and that they pull them over for processions and they kneel before the statues in spite the fact that the first commendment was to not make any image or statue, to not serve them and to not kneel before them. It says clearly no image nor statue of ANYTHING; may it be on earth, under the waters nor even in HEAVEN

Originally Posted by Milesian

In fact, you can find flood stories and similar creation legends all over the length &breadth of the world.
Does this then not hint at some kernel of truth in them all, when they all share similarities despite being seperated over great distances & having little/no contact with each other?

During the glacial period the sea level was much more lower than today and left uncovered very large portions of the continental platform which became habitable areas. Sea level rose up again with glaciars melting recovering those large areas again all over the world ... no wander that those flood legends persists all over the world in populations living by the sea ...

[Milesian]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

well, the fact tha catholics made statues of the saints and of holy Mary and that they pull them over for processions and they kneel before the statues in spite the fact that the first commendment was to not make any image or statue, to not serve them and to not kneel before them. It says clearly no image nor statue of ANYTHING; may it be on earth, under the waters nor even in HEAVEN

This is a problem partially caused by Private Interpretation of the bible and also because non-Catholics tend not to understand the difference between veneration and adoration.

Firstly, you say that all statues and images are forbidden.
In this you agree with several groups of people including the ancient heretics known as the Iconoclasts, as well as Muslims.

However, Christians have never agreed with this view.
The bible itself will contradict your interpretation of this view, here are some passages which make no sense under your interpretation :-

Thou shalt make also two cherubims of beaten gold, on the two sides of the oracle. - Exodus 25.18

And when Moses entered into the tabernacle of the covenant, to consult the oracle, he heard the voice of one speaking to him from the propitiatory, that is over the ark between the two cherubims, and from this place he spoke to him. - Numbers 7:89

From the ground even to the upper parts of the gate, were cherubims and palm trees wrought in the wall of the temple - Ezekiel 41:20

And over it were the cherubims of glory overshadowing the propitiatory Hebrews 9:5

Now we see numerous mentions from the bible that not only were there holy images in the Temple, but that God instructed them to be built there.
Now if your intepretation of the Commadments are correct then that would mean that God instructed the people to commit idolatory.

One important aspect that should be noted is that Catholics do not bow down and worship the actual statues or images. They are simly aids that help turn the mind to the true object of worship. When a Christian kneels in front of a cross, it is a sign of reverence out of the memory of the sacrifice on Calvary. But they are praying to God, that is where their minds are. The idea of commiting idolatory by rendering worship to a cross or statue would be unthinkable to any Catholic, laughable even in it's ridiculousness.

People need to read less Jack Chic comics

During the glacial period the sea level was much more lower than today and left uncovered very large portions of the continental platform which became habitable areas. Sea level rose up again with glaciars melting recovering those large areas again all over the world ... no wander that those flood legends persists all over the world in populations living by the sea ...

Yes. You haven't said anything here to contradicts me so I assume you agree?

[Señor Malo]

For the cats being at image of God I was not been serious (didn't ypu see the around my phrse???)
for The rest I agree with you on one thing; private interpretation.
May one must stop messing Christianity itself with what somepeople has been doing or not doing "for God sake's" but with no connection to what God (if there's one as I'm not really convinced of nono religion or belief) has been specting from them.

Private interpretation is the problem of all religions.
Did you know that even in Islam, Mohhamed had clearly said in the Qoran that Jesus was the one who got the True Word of God? And in spite of that the Immams consider him just like another prophet...

BTW we'd better stop going out of the subjet otherwise they will close this thread

[Ricardo Reis]

We may have a different view for what is called today the "Spanish civil war" in the near future. In my opinion Iberian micro-nationalism conflicts were hidden behind the supposed left-right wing conflict, the same way that a Croatian-Serbian conflict was hidden behind the supposed Yugoslavian civil war between Nazis and Commies.