II Symposium of Tierra y Pueblo

[Menydh]

II Symposium of Tierra y Pueblo

"EUROSIBERIA, THE MAKING OF AN ETHNO-POLITICAL POWER"

4-6 November, 2005.

Sierra de Espadán
Valencia (Spain)

TyP is glad to introduce the II European Symposium, which will serve as a meeting between comrades of the Identitarian movement.

This meeting will take place between the days 4, 5 & 6 of November in a spot near the City of Valencia.

During the event there will a number of conferences and presentations, and the various organisations which will take part on the event will sell books, music CDs, t-shirts and other items related to our entourage.

The public will include comrades from all parts of the Peninsula as well as representatives of the European identitarian movements.


The event will be hosted in a best facilities in a rural environment, which we hope that it will delight all of the participants. We have estimated the price per person in 120 euros, full board.

Anyone who wishes to attend, please let us know as soon as possible so that we can book in advance.


Speakers:

Gabriele ADINOLFI (Italy)
Director of the magazine Orion. Author of Noi Terza Posizione and Nos Belles années de plomb. Founder of Polaris.

Carlos DUFOUR (Argentina-Germany)
Professor and Doctor of Philosophy. Colaborator in various German and South American magazines. His last work, Inhärenz Ontologische Untersuchugen zu Eigenschaften un Ihärenz, has been recently published.

Guillaume FAYE (France)
Writer and thinker of referece in the world of the Indentitarianism. Author for a number of books, like La Colonisation de l’Europe ; discours vrai sur l’immigration et l’Islam, and many articles. He has recently received the brass medal of the Russian Duma.

Salvatore FRANCIA (Italy)
Historical leader of Ordine Nuovo. Director of the magazine Identità.

Pierre KREBS (Germany)
Founder of Thule-Seminar. He is director and colaborator in a number of German Identitarian publications. His book, Combate por lo esencial, will be published in Spanish by Ed. Tierra y Pueblo in short.

Ernesto MILÀ (Spain)
Writer of many books covering diverse subjects. Specialist in Geopolitics. He is the editor of the Internet portal Infokrisis.

Andreas MOLAU (Germany)
Chief-editor of Deutsche Stimme, the official magazine of the NPD. President of the Society of Free Publishers.

Enrique RAVELLO (Spain)
President of the association Tierra y Pueblo. He is the Director and Editor of the Identitarian magazine Tierra y Pueblo, and colaborates in different European Identitarian publications.

Erwin ROBERTSON (Chile)
Professor of Ancient History at the Universidad de Santiago de Chile. Director of the magazine Ciudad de los Césares.

Pierre VIAL (Francia)
Professor of Medieval History at the Université de Lyon III. President of the association Terre et Peuple and Director of the magazine Terre et Peuple. Founder of GRECE. Author of a number of books and articles.


Contact: tenostra@tiscali.es

[Menydh]

Notes:

The speakers from Spain, American and Italy will use the Spanish (Castillian) language.
The speakers from France will use their French language.
The speakers from Germany will use their German language and there will be a simultaneous translation.

All a bit Indo-* for my taste, but I've been assured that the idea of Eurosiberia is in opposing contrast with that of Eurasia. We'll see..

[Silas]

Wow, seems like a really great meeting. It´s times like this that i wish that i knew Spanish

[Menydh]

Bweh.. no need to. The food, drinks and environment will be the best part of it.

And I could always translate for you (though not to Swedish, sorry ).

[Carnyx]

TYP is actually the Spanish chapitre of Pierre Vial's "Terre et Peuple" if I'm not mistaken. Ever seen some of them (Adolfini for instance). Quite good actually, but it's "pagan". I'd not have thought it was your cup of tea.

[Menydh]

You are right. And in fact it is not my cup of tea. I'm neither an Indo nor a Pagan, and those are not the only points where I disgress wih Identitarians.

But as I said, I'm sure that the food and drinks will be good, the area is next to my orchard and the logding looks great, and last but not least I'm interested in listening to their speeches.

[Carnyx]

Yes, and there is a swimming pool! You know, French identitarians have some points and they are the only one movement which "moves" a bit. That said, Eurosiberia is a freaky utopia, I agree.

[Menydh]

Actually, what I've been told is that they confront/oppose the concept of Eurosiberia to that of Eurasia (this one freaky). So I'm curious to know what the Eurosiberian construct is about.

We must be aware that in Traditional Nationalism there is more after the pillars of the nation, and that no nation will be able to hold by itself in the future if it is not through a well constructed geopolitical framework.

So yes, they do have some points, and points where we surely meet. Still I am not an Identitarian.

[Carnyx]

The problem is that, for us French e.g., they have sold off our nationality dirt cheap, as you know. So anyone can be as French as the most authentic French guy. In the facts, they're becoming more and more "French", more than us even. That's terrible but sadly true. What represents France (the anthem, the flag, ... : those sentimental symbols) is now the symbol of what we abhor : Multi-culturalism, Mixing (cultural and racial), Tolerance, Political Correctness, Republicanism, Corrupted Democracy... At least, it's like that I feel it. We could always say and think they are not real French, that they're not French at all (what's true), still they're French in this reality and they've French passeport and ID.

So some French identify first (and/or only) with their homeland, region of origin, more rooted identitarian cultures. Their strategy is to say, you can make an Arab/African/Asian a "French" of paper, but you would never make an African an Alsatian, a Breton, a Provençal, a Corsican, etc. An African doesn't fit a traditional Asatian costum. It'd be grotesque for a majority of person. Sure, that's a way of speaking, that is, an Alsatian is an Europid and those who have made the Alsatian culture were so and could not be otherwise. On the contrary case, those cultures will cease to exist. It's an evidence for most of people, and I think even the most "blind" (non-politicized) would be chocked by such an image.

I've seen once a Blak African dressed in Swiss and singing like "one of them" (I can't recall the name)... Let me say you he looked totally ridiculous. And I found it was an insult for Swiss. So certainly I was not the only one to find that pretty odd.

Moreover, since the electoral national way is say blocked for the moment (they really don't have hope anymore concerning a FN election), they think it's a good strategy to come back to the source; the regions having been under exploited by the FN, they think those are our fortress to protect us from multi-culturalism/racialism and one has to reconquer them. They want to reconquer the Regions, overall with more contacts with People, with true social messages and actions, and not just tracting for the major poll every 5 years. I like to see that method as a complement, not just an alternative. Even if electorally, I can't see the end of the tunnel.

Also those identitarians can still praise a France For French. There's no problem I think. However, there are some French (not so few) who are of "mixed" French background, i.e. from different regions. I call them the interior uprooteds, as opposed to outside uprooteds (immigrants ). I feel sympathy for Identitarians, anyhow. They're interesting I think.

[Menydh]

As said, I'm not going to split hairs with Identitarian Nationalists over issues which are of secondary importance. And things like a geopolitical vision is something that they have developed much, and which Traditional Nationalism lacks at large.

Not that wI have to agree with the details of their geopolitical vision, but I can learn from it, and use this learning in a political evolutive way.

[jovemnr]

I am a portuguese identitaire and I will go to the II Symposium.
I expect a lot of this symposium.

[Visigodo]

Originally Posted by jovemnr

I am a portuguese identitaire and I will go to the II Symposium.
I expect a lot of this symposium.

You will be wellcome to my land. I will see you there.

[jovemnr]

I expect to meet you.
now it is time to go to valencia with my two camrades.

[Menydh]

A summary of the symposium, extracted and translated from infoKrisis:

In Defense of Eurosiberia