Welsh dragon call for Union flag

[Aptrgangr]

Welsh dragon call for Union flag

The union jack should be combined with the Welsh flag, according to an MP who wants the change to be made to reflect Wales' status within the UK.


Ian Lucas says Wales' flag should be combined with the union jack

In a Commons debate, Wrexham's Labour MP Ian Lucas said Wales' Red Dragon should be added to the union jack's red, white and blue pattern.
He said the union jack currently only represented the other three UK nations.
But Stewart Jackson, Conservative MP for Peterborough, said the plan was "eccentric" and would be unpopular.
"I do not believe it would add to the unity of the country," he said.

However, Culture Minister Margaret Hodge conceded that Mr Lucas had raised a valid point for debate.
She said the government is "keen" to make the Union Jack "a positive symbol of Britishness reflecting the diversity of our country today and encouraging people to take pride in our flag".
And the minister acknowledged that a number of people across Britain were unhappy about flying the Union Jack as they felt it does not "truly represent the United Kingdom".
However, she said redesigning the flag had not been part of a consultation currently being carried out.

'State of grace'
Their comments come after a Commons debate in which Mr Lucas said: "I believe that the Union Flag should change now to reflect the four nations of the United Kingdom - England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales."
He argued that the UK "did not exist in a constitutional state of grace".
"Changing an iconic image such as the union flag may appear to be more difficult to achieve than 200 years ago, but nonetheless I believe the change is right," he said.
"Let the debate begin, let the rest of the world know that the iconic symbol of the United Kingdom may change and that the reason that it will change is that we have a new constitutional settlement that affords Wales its true place in the Union."

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[Susi]

I think the union flag is crappy as it is (take out the blue and it's fine. jsut red and white )... putting a dragon on top would make it really a laughing stock. Besides Wales was annexed by England aaaaaaages ago. It only regained its status (per se) in 1997.

[Errigal]

The Union Jack represents the union of three kingdoms: England, Scotland and Ireland. Wales is a principality. Three out of four provinces (plus three counties) of the Kingdom of Ireland are now a Republic, so the Union Jack is looking a little wobbly.

We already live in a culture obsessed with symbol over substance; this flag debate is just another symptom. I myself am not very interested in "flagism" or "mapism". I am most interested in the organic civil society of nationhood.

If the current UK wants to change its flag then it should also take a look at its political institutions. I myself would rather live in a representative state with an anachronistic flag than an anachronistic state with a representative flag.

[Marcus Marulus]

Speaking strictly from the aesthetical point of view, this flag seems quite good to me.

[Aptrgangr]

Originally Posted by Plethon

Speaking strictly from the aesthetical point of view, this flag seems quite good to me.

I fully agree, there is no need to spoil this wonderful flag.
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[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Aptrgangr

WTF?

[Aptrgangr]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

WTF?

This flag incorporates he Cross of Saint David.





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