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Why didn't those English in question stay in their country in order to defend their land against the Paki invasion? Instead of that, they are running away from their own place and doing damage (by sky-rocketing prices, for example) to other countries.
What they are doing is actually fairly rational. They can sell their small house in England and buy a big house in France. And have money to spare.

It is up to the host country (in this case, France) to keep out incomers. Or restrict their flow. How many English per year can be assimilated into France. 50,000? 20,000? 4,000? Zero? Is it subject to them adopting French surnames? Or marrying a French person? Etc etc.

That is the core of the issue.
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What they are doing is actually fairly rational. They can sell their small house in England and buy a big house in France. And have money to spare.
Well, yes. As rational as when Pakis started to open corner shops in Britain and had them opened 24 hours a day, 7 days a week by having the whole family from the grandparents to the grandchildren working on shitfs, and running the local Brits who closed down in the evening and at least one day a week.

Maybe the comparison does not sound fair to others. I don't know..
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Well, yes. As rational as when Pakis started to open corner shops in Britain and had them opened 24 hours a day, 7 days a week by having the whole family from the grandparents to the grandchildren working on shitfs, and running the local Brits who closed down in the evening and at least one day a week.

Maybe the comparison does not sound fair to others. I don't know..
Again, I cannot blame Pakistanis for coming to England. In their shoes I would do the same. It is up to each jurisdiction to set out entry restrictions. A culture of limiting entry has to be created. Somehow. I cannot feel that angry at people who come to England and live peacefully, the problem lies within.
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I see. I wasn't sure if that was what you were actually saying.

Well, it is part right. At least in the part that the real problem is internal.

But I've lived in your country for a few years and I always kept a quite strict respect to the society there, regardless of any other considerations.
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I'm always interested to post on nationalist forums to explain my point of view on subjects on Brittany, moreover I'm one of rare Bretons of the forum who often post and who live in Brittany.


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The center of Brittany, abandoned ? It is rather exagerated.
These maps illustrated the problem :


Proportion of -20 years old per cantons



Evolution of the breton population during 150 years.




http://www.bretagne.equipement.gouv....cf_12_plan.pdf
Railoroad in Brittany (whithout Nantes/Naoned)

A funny annecdote, for the travel Lorient-Paimpol by train, I must pass to Redon, Rennes, Dol, St Brieux and Guiguamps. Not simply Pontivy and Guiguamps.

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But in fact, this "Anti-Anglo" phenomenum is rather concentrated in that part of Brittany, and that is precisely because there is more English than French who buy houses in this area.

French people are also very numerous, but there are mostly present in the Southern coast of Morbihan, and not really in Kreiz Breiz.
According to a study of INSEE (1999), only 79% of the population is not born in the « administrativ region of Brittany » and 70 % in the « Loire Atlantique ».
We can approximately say that there are 1/3 or a bit more third world immigrants in the 21 and 30 % of aliens, the rest is surely french in majority. The British population represents nothing in comparison and people say nothing to others immigrants.


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Well, they may like the Breton folklore, but just as the French tourists. Brittany is a vacancy area for them.
Sure but I spoke for the residents.
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These maps illustrated the problem :

A funny annecdote, for the travel Lorient-Paimpol by train, I must pass to Redon, Rennes, Dol, St Brieux and Guiguamps. Not simply Pontivy and Guiguamps.
Yes, I know all this, but there is still a majority of Breton people living in this area. That's why I meant it was exagerated to say it was abandoned.

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We can approximately say that there are 1/3 or a bit more third world immigrants in the 21 and 30 % of aliens, the rest is surely french in majority. The British population represents nothing in comparison and people say nothing to others immigrants.
You probably mean 79% is born in Brittany.

But as I said before, I didn't speak for the whole country, but only for the center of Brittany, where many British people own houses (whereas the French often prefer the coast).

For the other immigrants, I think it's another problem : they don't buy houses in rural areas, and they mostly live between them in suburbs.
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Yes, I know all this, but there is still a majority of Breton people living in this area. That's why I meant it was exagerated to say it was abandoned.
You will find villages with an English majority in the center. But I said abandoned because I compare it with Brittany of 100 or 200 years ago. There wasn't strong demographic difference, specially for the youth.
It was an area more vital/dynamic, it's my ideal.

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For the other immigrants, I think it's another problem : they don't buy houses in rural areas, and they mostly live between them in suburbs.
Right, except some little towns like Logunec'h/Locmine who receive lot of Africans migrants for the agroalimentary industry.
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It is not just Bretons, but Cornish too. And well, the reasons are as expected.
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According to the Telegraph, it's not just the Cornish who have taken exception to "incomers" forcing up house prices and alienating the locals - Breton "extremists" have a similarly incendiary attitude to unwelcome outsiders, as Linsey Widd and hubby Darren can attest.

Local property prices have rocketed by 300 per cent since Brits began their invasion, the Telegraph notes.


Bretons turn on Britons | The Register
An interesting long thread discussion: Brittany - Brittany is noisy and stinks!: The AngloINFO Forum
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Right, except some little towns like Logunec'h/Locmine who receive lot of Africans migrants for the agroalimentary industry.
I was in Rennes this month and I was quite surprised by the number of black people I saw. The population seem to have changed much since the last years.

One afternoon, I took the subway and I was nearly the only white person in it. I lived the same situation only in Paris or its Banlieue before...
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I was in Rennes this month and I was quite surprised by the number of black people I saw. The population seem to have changed much since the last years.

One afternoon, I took the subway and I was nearly the only white person in it. I lived the same situation only in Paris or its Banlieue before...
Yes, Western France was long protected and preserved by the fact that it was the least industrialized (except for some areas like Rouen or Le Havre) French area. Now cities like Rennes, Nantes, Caen, Bordeaux, La Rochelle, Le Mans ... are getting increasingly economically attractive (especially for Parisians fed up with stressful life in the capital) and are very well connected to the rest of France (with TGV). "Economic modernization" probably also meant "ethnic mixity" in governmental minds.
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