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Trees are some of the wisest creatures I communicate.



Certainly not all trees, as their personality varies as much as among humans. Some are friendly, open minded and curious. Others are bitter, enclosed and not communicablel.

An easy way to open a communication, is giving the tree a compliment. Telephatic of course. Their reaction will be various. Some thanks for the compliment, and responds with telepating ideas back. Others resonds with anger and threaths.

When I pick something , I ask for its permission first, and it hurts me if I have to cut a tree.

Some of them are old, and have for long times had the option to observe. So some of them have become very old and wise, with much more life experience than humans. Some of the are very observant too.

Some of them are very good storytellers, and know adventures and stories never known to humans before. If I do not receive negative reactions on this post, I shall later pass a wonderful and mysterious adventure told me by a tree.

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I'm told Prince Charles is fully fluent in plant & tree language....
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An easy way to open a communication, is giving rthe three a compliment. Telephatic of course. Their reaction will be various. Some thanks for the compliment, and responds with telephating ideas back. Others resonds with anger and threaths.

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Some of them are very good storytellers, and know adventures and stories never known to humans before. If I do not receive negative reactions on this post, I shall later pass a wonderful and mysterious adventure told me by a three.
Don't get this as a negative reaction, but I'm usually a sceptic guy. Isn't that what you describe pretty much the same as Schizophrenia?
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Don't get this as a negative reaction, but I'm usually a sceptic guy. Isn't that what you describe pretty much the same as Schizophrenia?


I don`t know if you are schizofrenous or just have a limited perception that you also project on others. Ask your shrink?

And your reaction has no positive elements, it is only reactive negative.

I believe you are limited.

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I don`t know if you are schizofrenous or just have a limited perception that you also project on others. Ask your shrink?
I have none... And I project nothing on others.

Still, I'm sure you know what an hallucination is, and also what an illusion is. Hallucinations are usually symptons of untreated Schizophrenia, while illusions are just erroneous perceptions of reality.

That plants & trees somehow communicate, I believe. Now that you understand their means of communication, as I said, I'm a little over sceptic...

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Actually it was inquisitive, it was not that hard to notice.

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Believe what you want... I'm not really preoccupied with that.

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is fully fluent in plant & tree language....
Well, he has to be. He has married a cactus, hasn't he?
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that I understand the language of the trees.. assuming that by such language you mean that you can actually hear them.
I can, however, understand when they tell me that they are thirsty.. only because their leaves fold and the green scenery of the leaves of the orange trees becomes dark, as if they were sad.

You can also see their health in their branches and in the trunk, and when they are demanding a pruning. But right, I'm talking of fruit producing trees.

Apart from that, sitting alone in the middle of nature and listening is most rewarding. It is not -in my opinion- trees that speak to you. It is the unique experience of sounds, scents, peace.. and ultimately nature talking to you..

... Nature? Well, that's perhaps the feeling. But it is only a feeling. In reality it is the peace of mind and spirit that nature provides you that allows you to get into intimate contact with your inner self. Like the Spanish religious and mystic friar, Fray Luis de León put it with mastery in his poem Vida Retirada (Retired Life):

¡Qué descansada vida
la del que huye el mundanal ruido
y sigue la escondida
senda por donde han ido
los pocos sabios que en el mundo han sido!


What a rested life
that of he who runs away from the wordly noise
and follows the hidden
path where have walked
the few sages that in the world have been!

(full poem in Favourite Poem)
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Dumb-o?
Well, he has to be. He has married a cactus, hasn't he?
That's a pretty mild description. Are you getting diplomatic in your old age?
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Digging a bit on the internet searching for tree listening, I've found out that this seems to be a Buddhist practice. Not surprisingly I've seen Thore refering to Buddha on another post..

It is also not uncommon the people who talk to their plants and flowers, and who assure that the plants and flowers respond positively (blooming and growing strong) to nice talking, and negatively (whithering) to harsh talking.

Not me. definitely not me. Or.. ? Now that I think about it, I talked to the boat after it took us safe home.

Schizophrenia? Who? Me? Or the boat for listening to me. Or are the trees schizophrenic for listening to him? And anyway, how schizophrenic must one be to be actually schizophrenic?
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Schizophrenic Trees

by Heather Madrone



Schizophrenia?
Art of listening to trees.
Simple understanding.

A forest tree speaks
In a language clear to me,
Nothing like English.

Be still! Dig your roots
Into the Earth. Feel the wind
Moving your branches.

Feel the sun on your Crown.
Drink water, eat dirt, breathe
Carbon dioxide.

Listen! Listen! Child,
You animals move too fast.
Stillness has rewards.

Feel my wooden heart.
Feel the pulse of my xylem
And phloem, touch me.

Understand, then, why,
We plants chose to root, here, now.
All life in one place.

http://www.madrone.com/Haiku/trees.htm
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Oh, i'm so glad my post was deleted... I wonder why I can't use sarcasm while others can.... must be a lobby thing....
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It is also not uncommon the people who talk to their plants and flowers, and who assure that the plants and flowers respond positively (blooming and growing strong) to nice talking, and negatively (whithering) to harsh talking.
Plants feel what's going on around them... Try saying a bunch of negative things in a smooth manner, you'll see them blooming and going strong the very same way. It's not about words or languages, it's about how you talk to them... You don't even need to mutter any words, just sounds in a nice tone would be more than enough.

I don't really see what's so surprising, works the same way for animals...

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Not me. definitely not me. Or.. ? Now that I think about it, I talked to the boat after it took us safe home.
It didn't reply, did it?

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Schizophrenia? Who? Me? Or the boat for listening to me. Or are the trees schizophrenic for listening to him? And anyway, how schizophrenic must one be to be actually schizophrenic?
One is not Schizophrenic for talking to inanimate objects like the boat, it could be a symptom if you said it talks back... Or you could also be on hallucinogenic drugs...
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Plants feel what's going on around them... Try saying a bunch of negative things in a smooth manner, you'll see them blooming and going strong the very same way. It's not about words or languages, it's about how you talk to them... You don't even need to mutter any words, just sounds in a nice tone would be more than enough.
OK..... don't get me wrong, i'm saying this without any malicious intent, but I've never seen such thing. How is that even plausible? Yes, i've heard the old myth about plants reacting to music, etc, but that makes no sense from a biological/scientific stance: they don't have sensory organs that react to sounds!
Prove me otherwise without using esotheric arguments and i'll concede that you are right.

On another note, I do believe that there is a serious lack of respect for
Nature in all it's beauty, be it trees or the small plants, rocks and rivers. Contemporary human societies truly exploit nature from a "until there is nothing more" perspective and that spells doom for Mankind: nature is and will always be unreplaceable.
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OK..... don't get me wrong, i'm saying this without any malicious intent, but I've never seen such thing. How is that even plausible? Yes, i've heard the old myth about plants reacting to music, etc, but that makes no sense from a biological/scientific stance: they don't have sensory organs that react to sounds!
Prove me otherwise without using esotheric arguments and i'll concede that you are right.
I'm not really science guy, more of a humanities one... So I'll let the more skilled ones to argument... I'll just state an example...

When I was on my eighth or ninth grade, a friend of mine, quite crazy, I shall add, used to talk almost everyday with a plant that was in the cantine -- while we were waiting in the line --, the plant had been there since my fifth grade, always half-dead or something, but some weeks after he started talking to it, it started to grow with an awesome green... Perhaps it was just a coincidence... But when we left the school -- end of ninth grade -- and he stopped talking to it, it died.

It's not an esotheric argument, is it?
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It's not an esotheric argument, is it?
Yup. I'm betting in five minutes you'll be entering a trance and making prophecies. And your friend would get beaten in my school if he talked to plants, not to mention the obvious gayness that type of behaviour indicates....
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Yup. I'm betting in five minutes you'll be entering a trance and making prophecies.
Ohh God, it's starting already...

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And your friend would get beaten in my school if he talked to plants, not to mention the obvious gayness that type of behaviour indicates....
I still think it depends on the kind of conversations you have...

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