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Has anyone found scientific proof of the Theory of Evolution yet?
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Has anyone found scientific proof of the Theory of Evolution yet?
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Has anyone found scientific proof of the Theory of Evolution yet?

Has anyone found the proof of the contrary?
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i believe you.
There's also the proof of the Reverse process

You don't beleieve? what about this, then?(see below)
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Has anyone found the proof of the contrary?
Truthfully, there are some serious objections raised about Darwinism and they don't rely on religious opinion but rather on scientific doubts. According to scientific method, a theory must be both observable and verifiable to be judged as fact. The TOE is neither of these things.
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- Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596).

The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation.
- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

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Truthfully, there are some serious objections raised about Darwinism and they don't rely on religious opinion but rather on scientific doubts. According to scientific method, a theory must be both observable and verifiable to be judged as fact. The TOE is neither of these things.

That's a good argument, I agree with you.
I understand that the Evolution as defined by Darwin can be questionable, but the existence of evolution process by itself, can it be questioned?
I mean, we must accept however -and the fossil record is there to remind us- that things like these below had really happened :





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but the existence of evolution process by itself, can it be questioned?
I'm not sure what you mean. Darwin's theory that one species evolves into another is certainly not above question.

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I mean, we must accept however -and the fossil record is there to remind us- that things like these below had really happened :
Actually, the fossil record doesn't support Darwinism.
There is no clear cut fossils of one species in transition to another.
If anything, the gaps in the fossil record prove somewhat problematic to the theory. Neo-Darwinists have tried to come up with some ad hoc explanations to explain this away, but they sound exactly that - excuses.
When a theory fails to explain something then usually it is reviewed.
Darwinism is almost unique in that instead of being reviewed & scrutinised, it merely gets extra little theories tagged onto it in the hope of saving it from collapsing, which as an objective observer would have to admit, is pretty unscientific in itself.
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- Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596).

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- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

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There is no clear cut fossils of one species in transition to another.
The fossil record known up to today is far from being complete. We talk about an scale of several thousand million years and it is estimated that less than 5% of all living creture has possibilities to get fossilized afeter dead (and yet, such estimation is considered as far too much optimistic)
From time to time new species of dinosaurs and other vertebrates are discovered around the world and not to talk about new species of fossil invertebrates which do not catch the interest of the medias.

It is my opinion that the case of the horse, to quote but one exemple is very is very ilustrative of transitional species which lead from Hyracotherium to modern Equus ...
Now, for the debate on Darwin and darwinism, I admit that I should read the whole of hos work (as I always read but excerpts and sumarized articles) to know what the darwinist doctrine exactly implies
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The fossil record known up to today is far from being complete. We talk about an scale of several thousand million years and it is estimated that less than 5% of all living creture has possibilities to get fossilized afeter dead (and yet, such estimation is considered as far too much optimistic)
From time to time new species of dinosaurs and other vertebrates are discovered around the world and not to talk about new species of fossil invertebrates which do not catch the interest of the medias.
I will accept that. I do not mean to say that the fossil record disproves Darwin's theory but rather it cannot be cited as proof of it either

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It is my opinion that the case of the horse, to quote but one exemple is very is very ilustrative of transitional species which lead from Hyracotherium to modern Equus ...
Now, for the debate on Darwin and darwinism, I admit that I should read the whole of hos work (as I always read but excerpts and sumarized articles) to know what the darwinist doctrine exactly implies
The sticking point is Macroevolution (the proposal that species evolve and mutate into new species). It has neither been observed or reproduced, nor has any definitive evidence been found of it. At best, the Theory of Evolution is exactly that -a theory. According to proper scientific conduct it must remain a theory until it can be proven in a manner which is acceptible to the scientific method.

I have no problem with such a theory being taught as one of several possibilities (it may well be correct). However, I do have a problem with it being taught as if it were substantiated fact when it is clearly no such thing. To prohibit any competing theories to be taught alongside cannot be good for proper scientific enquiry.
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The sticking point is Macroevolution (the proposal that species evolve and mutate into new species). It has neither been observed or reproduced, nor has any definitive evidence been found of it. At best, the Theory of Evolution is exactly that -a theory. According to proper scientific conduct it must remain a theory until it can be proven in a manner which is acceptible to the scientific method.

I have no problem with such a theory being taught as one of several possibilities (it may well be correct). However, I do have a problem with it being taught as if it were substantiated fact when it is clearly no such thing. To prohibit any competing theories to be taught alongside cannot be good for proper scientific enquiry.

I think I begin to understand your point of view.
One must not mistake facts with theories :the fact is that Hyracotherium became Horse; how it come to happen? that's another point, the evolution therory is but one of the possible explanation. But not the only one.I agree that competing theories should be taught alongside with that of the Evolution.Otherwise darwinism would become an integrist religious doctrine.

BTW, do you know which are other alternative theories to that of evolution?
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I need some information about "Piltdown hoax". Someone knows about Theillard de Chardin and his influence in this case? Thanks.
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I need some information about "Piltdown hoax". Someone knows about Theillard de Chardin and his influence in this case? Thanks.
Hi,
the link bellow looks quite complete and apparently gives a good account on Chardin's implication
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Thanks, and... something about Lombroso?
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