More from the freak blondicist internet activists

[Bridie]

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Nothing wrong with using a stick on a biting dog to stop him from doing it... as long as one doesn't use the same stick on all the non-biting dogs in the process.

Originally Posted by Susi

I didn't really see where he called us stupid whores to tell you the truth (blonde/blue [or light for that matter] eyes women). ^^

True, Mynydd didn't... he just blamed blonde (always female) tourists from the North for the spread of sexual liberalism into Southern Europe in the early days of the "movement". Northern European women are inadvertently responsible for the decline in quality male/female sexual/intimate relationships in Southern Europe today by leading Southern European men astray with their evil, liberal ways.

You know, this sounds very similar to what Muslim men in Australia complain about - although it is them in our country and not the other way around, as with Mynydd's observations... Australian women leading Muslim men astray by their evil non-buqa wearing ways... going out into public without close family male escorts to stave off the hungry hordes of rapists every woman who steps out of her front door is bound to encounter...... sexually loose Australian women (you can tell they are because they wear bikinis on the beach) corrupting poor, virtuous Muslim men....


Anyway, in my opinion it's not so much a case of "men want to just have fun with blondes and marry brunettes", it's more a case of "men want to just have fun with any good-looking woman who happens to be close-by, but will only want to marry a virtuous woman of his own people...."

So Japanese men might like to "have fun" with European women, but they will rarely want to marry them... Southern European men might like to "have fun" with Northern European women, but they will rarely want to marry them... and Northern European men might like to "have fun" with Southern European women, but they will rarely want to marry them. Could be said for any population group I think.


That said, I can tell that Mynydd wasn't meaning to be offensive with his earlier post, and indeed I personally wasn't offended because I can see the reasoning behind it... but I still think that it is a very one-sided, flawed version of the truth...

To look at it from the Northern Euro female tourists point of view, perhaps they were so unaccustomed to the enthusiastic attention they received from these exotic Southern Euro men (as Northern Euro men tend to be more reserved) that they "went silly" and engaged in behaviour that they ordinarily wouldn't have.

[Carnyx]

Reminds me of when Dienekes (a greek) claimed that northern european women "developped" blonde hair because they would be ugly otherwise.

Did he say that or is it your own interpretation of what he might have thought of it? The theory is about sexual selection, it doesn't say brown-haired women are ugly if not blonde. Fair hair would have made them more catchy to the eyes of men.

Academic researchers have discovered that women in northern Europe evolved with light hair and blue eyes at the end of the Ice Age to stand out from the crowd and lure men away from the far more common brunette.
Blond hair originated through genetic necessity at a time when there was a shortage of both food and males, leading to a high ratio of women competing for smaller numbers of potential partners, according to the study published this week in the academic journal, Evolution and Human Behaviour.
Until these shortages about 10,000 to 11,000 years ago, humans had uniformly dark hair and eyes.
The physical ardour required with hunting bison, reindeer and mammoths in some regions meant many male hunters died and left women with a shrinking pool of breeders.

Flaxen-haired women arose out of a rare mutation but increased in numbers because their chances of breeding turned out to be better.

How women evolved blond hair to win cavemen's hearts - Science, News - Independent.co.uk

[Bridie]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Did he say that or is it your own interpretation of what he might have thought of it? The theory is about sexual selection, it doesn't say brown-haired women are ugly if not blonde. Fair hair would have made them more catchy to the eyes of men.

How women evolved blond hair to win cavemen's hearts - Science, News - Independent.co.uk

You're thinking of a different theory altogether there Weggsy. Dienekes' theory (and Mynydd's too, I suppose) goes something like this...

Southern European women have evolved more beautiful faces than Northern European women because most often the rates of blonde haired women in these Southern areas is very low, and blonde hair basically "hides" facial unattractiveness and flaws. (Apparently, one's face becomes "less visible" when one has fair hair. ) So we have a situation where women with ugly faces are being selected as sexual partners more often in areas where many women have blonde hair... yet in areas where most women are dark haired, only the most facially beautiful women are being selected. (Because, the theory goes, if you have dark hair your face is more visible and flaws can be noticed.)

Thus, dark haired populations become better and better looking with time, while blonde haired ones become uglier and uglier, or at least stay as ugly as they originally were.

Funny, when I was first reading Dienekes laughable and totally unscientific theory I had visions of myself trying to sneak into places that I wasn't allowed to go, under the protection of my amaaaaaaaaazing veil of invisibility!!!! Bwahahahaha!!!! (Being my blonde hair of course). Unfortunately, I think this will only ever be a sweet dream because in real life it seems that people can still see me... even with blonde hair...

[PeterThaGreat]

Good Bridie,

Dienekes is one of the biggest trolls in the (amateur) gene/anthro community. The problem of these chaps is that they've never really been approved in the white mans world, hence they try make themselves look better at the cost of others.

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Bridie

You're thinking of a different theory altogether there Weggsy. Dienekes' theory (and Mynydd's too, I suppose) goes something like this...

Southern European women have evolved more beautiful faces than Northern European women because most often the rates of blonde haired women in these Southern areas is very low, and blonde hair basically "hides" facial unattractiveness and flaws. (Apparently, one's face becomes "less visible" when one has fair hair. ) So we have a situation where women with ugly faces are being selected as sexual partners more often in areas where many women have blonde hair... yet in areas where most women are dark haired, only the most facially beautiful women are being selected. (Because, the theory goes, if you have dark hair your face is more visible and flaws can be noticed.)

Thus, dark haired populations become better and better looking with time, while blonde haired ones become uglier and uglier, or at least stay as ugly as they originally were.

Funny, when I was first reading Dienekes laughable and totally unscientific theory I had visions of myself trying to sneak into places that I wasn't allowed to go, under the protection of my amaaaaaaaaazing veil of invisibility!!!! Bwahahahaha!!!! (Being my blonde hair of course). Unfortunately, I think this will only ever be a sweet dream because in real life it seems that people can still see me... even with blonde hair...

Oh, ok, my mistake. I wasn't aware of this one. I thought... nevermind. I needn't justify myself. I've never read much of Deniekes.

So basically it is that men can get engaged with ugly women just because they are blondes?

That sounds a little bit like a perversion. Hair colour is all the same on an ulgy person to me, unless you are a hardcore fetishist willing to do something with a female with a specific hair colouring at all price.

In any case, I don't get all the fuss about hair colour. Nordics tend to be blondes ok, we know that, in the south we are dark haired, and? If we say blondes are hot, some like to pretend horny Meds keep chasing over blonde females, when we find blondes are simply tasteless compared to brunettes, some seem to want the whole world to adore blonde hair. Someone has already point this out here, I don't remember who.

[3rdEye]

Originally Posted by PeterThaGreat

Good Bridie,

Dienekes is one of the biggest trolls in the (amateur) gene/anthro community. The problem of these chaps is that they've never really been approved in the white mans world, hence they try make themselves look better at the cost of others.

And you are the troll in the same "community" and King in the white man's world!

[Bridie]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Oh, ok, my mistake. I wasn't aware of this one. I thought... nevermind. I needn't justify myself. I've never read much of Deniekes.

A lot of the stuff I've read from his blog is actually quite good, so I was a bit surprised by this little doozie.

Originally Posted by Weggles

So basically it is that men can get engaged with ugly women just because they are blondes?

That sounds a little bit like a perversion. Hair colour is all the same on an ulgy person to me, unless you are a hardcore fetishist willing to do something with a female with a specific hair colouring at all price.

Well, it's not about blonde fetishism, according to this "theory"... its about not being able to see the woman's face well enough to notice her flaws or unattractiveness if she has blonde hair... and therefore the poor sod who ends up interbreeding with her doesn't even realise just how ugly she is.

Originally Posted by Weggsy

In any case, I don't get all the fuss about hair colour. Nordics tend to be blondes ok, we know that, in the south we are dark haired, and? If we say blondes are hot, some like to pretend horny Meds keep chasing over blonde females, when we find blondes are simply tasteless compared to brunettes, some seem to want the whole world to adore blonde hair. Someone has already point this out here, I don't remember who.

I don't see what all the fuss is about either to be honest... certain physical (as well as behavioural) characteristics can be markers for who one considers one's folk to be or not to be, but beyond that I don't see the big deal.

Personally, I think it's all about males being competitive with each other.

[PeterThaGreat]

Originally Posted by Gnist

And you are the troll in the same "community" and King in the white man's world!

I have a tendency for making over the top comments every know and then, however when making serious arguments I always refer to up to date scientific studies of contemporary relevance. There's not many poster around who do the same.

I don't know about Dienekes but lof his supporters are Americans of Sicilian ancestry (Racial reality, Crimson Guard) just like Dienekes they like emphasize the pureness of Southern Europeans at the cost Northern Europeans. This evident in basically every contribution these guys make.

[Bridie]

Originally Posted by PeterThaGreat

I have a tendency for making over the top comments every know and then,

... And over the top usernames.

I think most Finns have a tendency for making over the top comments...

... you're all a bunch of nutters! < (love that smilie!!)

[Yago]

Alright, Bridie. Since the forums are drawning down to their lowest levels of quality discussion since you dropped yourself on Stirpes, and since I've noticed that another member of the Staff of Stirpes banned PeterThaGreat's overextended welcome, it is time for you to say "Good-Bye!". Or "That's all folks!". Or whatever you use to wave farewell, before you skip out of here.

I will split this conversation(sic) again and take it out of Camera Obscura, so that non-registered visitors can judge from themselves and even share the fun of it.

Originally Posted by Bridie

Nothing wrong with using a stick on a biting dog to stop him from doing it... as long as one doesn't use the same stick on all the non-biting dogs in the process.

If you have a dog trying to bite you and a pack of dogs right behind it barking at you with froth coming out from their mouths, be sure that you are going to need much more than a stick. A shotgun would be more useful.

True, Mynydd didn't... he just blamed blonde (always female) tourists from the North for the spread of sexual liberalism into Southern Europe in the early days of the "movement". Northern European women are inadvertently responsible for the decline in quality male/female sexual/intimate relationships in Southern Europe today by leading Southern European men astray with their evil, liberal ways.

That's what someone like you would have liked me to mean.

However, even an Australian abusing the status of her gender to provoke and to spread a mixed agenda of Nordic supremacism and of Nordic victimism (or blonde supremacism and blonde victimism, which is even more ridiculous if possible), should be able to understand that liberalism and the spread of liberalism is much more complex than the oversimplification that you have done there, and which you pretend to charge on me.

For you information, Swedes --males more than females.. though this is a subjective difference-- are victims just as well. And not excutors.

And, also for your information, neither the 60s nor the 70s were any "early days of the [feminist] movement". If you were more careful reading, you would have noticed the dates.

However, it is clear that you speak (or write) more than you listen (or read). You had a target, you caught a few words here and there, and you shot clumsily onto the target.

You know, this sounds very similar to what Muslim men in Australia complain about - although it is them in our country and not the other way around, as with Mynydd's observations... Australian women leading Muslim men astray by their evil non-buqa wearing ways... going out into public without close family male escorts to stave off the hungry hordes of rapists every woman who steps out of her front door is bound to encounter...... sexually loose Australian women (you can tell they are because they wear bikinis on the beach) corrupting poor, virtuous Muslim men....

Yes, it does sound a little similar if one is willing to see it that way. What should be noticed is that it is the interpretation of an Australian female engaged on a jihad of blond hair worship, what sounds so similar to Muslim men's complaints.

Anyway, in my opinion it's not so much a case of "men want to just have fun with blondes and marry brunettes", it's more a case of "men want to just have fun with any good-looking woman who happens to be close-by, but will only want to marry a virtuous woman of his own people...."

Be so kind as to read it again... actually, do read it. And for God's sake do make an attempt to understand what is written there. Once, you've done that, restrain from cheating, lying, twisting, or whatever other desires come through your nature.

So Japanese men might like to "have fun" with European women, but they will rarely want to marry them... Southern European men might like to "have fun" with Northern European women, but they will rarely want to marry them... and Northern European men might like to "have fun" with Southern European women, but they will rarely want to marry them. Could be said for any population group I think.

Japanese men, Southern or Northern European men, Western or Eastern European men, and even Lapps and Bushmen might like to "have fun" with any woman...who offers herself to them.

And now I ask you what does this have to do with the discussion. [addendum: I'll answer it myself, since you have already said way too much about exactly nothing. The answer is "nothing". Like most of what you usually say or write].

That said, I can tell that Mynydd wasn't meaning to be offensive with his earlier post, and indeed I personally wasn't offended because I can see the reasoning behind it... but I still think that it is a very one-sided, flawed version of the truth...

When I mean to be offensive, you might have noticed that I am quite direct at it and I don't stop at subtleties.

But I have no doubts that you have meant to offend above, when you did that clumsy and stupid comparison with Muslim men.

To look at it from the Northern Euro female tourists point of view

Who you never got to know at the time, but who I am sure that you are going to speak loud for themselves..

perhaps they were so unaccustomed to the enthusiastic attention they received from these exotic Southern Euro men (as Northern Euro men tend to be more reserved) that they "went silly" and engaged in behaviour that they ordinarily wouldn't have.

I don't know how you construct your "conclusions" and expect them to pass as if they had any relevance whatsoever.

As an early personal experience, while I was at an English language school in SW England, I've had one such Northern European woman (notice that "Euro" is a inflationary currency, however it is misunderstood by all colonials alike), from Kungsbacka (Sweden) going after me during the entire summer course, despite the fact that I was going out with a girl from Umbria (Central Italy). I don't know, but maybe it is because I was kind and gentle to her (as I was with all other girls there, without an exception), that she understood that that was "enthusiastic attention".

Was it because Mynydd had "the theory that S. European women have evolved...blah,blah,blah..."?

For Christ's sake! Do yourself a favour and go visit a professional!

I don't even remember if she was full blonde or less-than-full blonde, even making a hard memory effort, I can't even remember the colour of her eyes (I assume blue, but I could be wrong and could have been anything between grey and brown.. perhaps not green, no), and can't even remember her face if she had a long or a short nose. And well, I do assume that she had two and not three ears. Less so I can remember if she was "Nordid" or "Cromagnoid", or even part "Lappid". Alright, I barely recall a rather robust body structure, which might point to Cromagnoid or to Lappid..

... but tell me, why the hell are we even arguing about this? Forget it, I will tell you. Because since the very moment when you have dropped into these forums, with whatever pretensions, the level of the discussion has degenerated into this.

Go away, Bridie. This is no place for you and you have abused our welcome to you here. I have always been certain that colonials are worthless for our purposes of building up a quality and friendly political community of Nationalist Europeans on the Internet. Worse than worthless, they are a cancer that destroys anything that we build. And you have proved me right beyond any reasonable doubt.

Of course that there are exceptions, like I told you. But like all exceptions, they are not part of the rule. And be very certain that you are not an exception.

Also, when Phlegethon unwelcomed you in the past, for much the same belief, many might have thought that he was overreacting to your presence, or that he was being too harsh without a reason. Remember that we crossed a few emails, where I told you that whether I agreed or not with his decission was unimportant, since I approved of it? Well, you have proved him right, more than what any of us would have wanted you to.

Originally Posted by Bridie

You're thinking of a different theory altogether there Weggsy. Dienekes' theory (and Mynydd's too, I suppose) goes something like this...

Southern European women have evolved more beautiful faces than Northern European women because most often the rates of blonde haired women in these Southern areas is very low, and blonde hair basically "hides" facial unattractiveness and flaws.

I have news for you, Bridie: the internet blondicist nutcases like you and the rest at The Al-Thing/Skadi are just that. Internet nutcases. Dienekes is more similar to you to what he is to us here. This is a politically-oriented, ethnic nationalist-oriented, community.

There is something called aesthetic personal preferences. And even preferences that go well beyond aesthetics. Doesn't Dienekes have a forum? You will be more at home there than here, if he does. Although I'm afraid that even if both Dienekes and you are on the same or similar string, even if at different poles or extremes, he appears to be much more intelligent than you.

Oh! And no, I did not have in mind him being "Med" vs you being "Nord" (or whatever). Or even him being "male" vs you being "female". But I'm afraid that when addressing those of your kind one must have such things into account. No matter that it sounds to lunacy. Indeed, it is lunacy.

And more blah, blah, blah.. non-stop... until something of a little entertainment:

Funny, when I was first reading Dienekes laughable and totally unscientific theory

To all of you "internet [un-/]scientificists", it is more than probably that no one ever told you that science-fiction taken to the fringes of lunacy is just that: lunacy. And those who practice are known as the lunatic fringes.

So now that you know, everytime that you mention that something is "scientific" or "unscientific", bear in mind that it is lunacy no matter what.

I had visions of myself [...]

That's called symptoms.

Originally Posted by Bridie

A lot of the stuff I've read from his blog is actually quite good, so I was a bit surprised by this little doozie.

You are speaking of Dienekes yet again, I take it.

At this point many will have observed that these are signs of obsessive-compulsive disorder.

Since PeterThaGreat and you appear to have the same symptoms in everything, you two should consider going on a joint therapy group. Which will work out cheaper than individual therapy and, after all, it is not like if you want to pay more for what has few signs of being curable at this stage.


That's it, Bridie. Please, do give my best regards to kangaroos which are the only valuable and nearest to rational living beings that I can think of at this moment, in your part of the world.

And if you are going to take offense in anything of the above, remember that if you admit it, if you hide it, or if you deny it, I couldn't care less.


Farewell and keep all those thousands of miles of sea water and loonie houses in the middle in between you and I!

[Yago]

Originally Posted by PeterThaGreat

they like [to] emphasize the pureness of Southern Europeans at the cost [of] Northern Europeans.

I thought it interesting to highlight this pearl. For psychiatric research interest only. The brackets are my grammar/typographic corrections.