Irano-nordoid

[Exeter]

You can try Face of the Future

Originally Posted by Truth-Finder

BTW does anyone have an Age Transformer program?

[Lutiferre]

To anyone in this thread - mind if I ask:

Wasnt Armenia originally a part of Europe, consisting of all of what is now Turkey, bordering up to Greece at that time?

The reason for my question is obviously that people are referring to Armenia as non-European and as if it is very alien to European culture - but is that really correct?

[Sergius]

I'm no expert on Caucasian history, but I myself was surprised to find that Armenia wasn't considered European. Georgia, too, then, I suppose.

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Faustas

I myself was surprised to find that Armenia wasn't considered European. Georgia, too, then, I suppose.

But the thing is, I think Armenia most definitely IS considered European, at least by many people. But whether it is correct to do so, and what the predominant view here on Stirpes is, I am not sure of.

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

But the thing is, I think Armenia most definitely IS considered European, at least by many people. But whether it is correct to do so, and what the predominant view here on Stirpes is, I am not sure of.

The problem is not Armenia it self but those Armenians who believe to be descent of the "Great Aryan Invasion" and who consider the southern Europeans as "darky inferiors" to themselves

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Truth-Finder

The problem is not Armenia it self but those Armenians who believe to be descent of the "Great Aryan Invasion" and who consider the southern Europeans as "darky inferiors" to themselves

So an Armenian who just considered himself European and perhaps the victim of Mongolian barbarism and genocide (Turkey) could very well be accepted here on Stirpes?

[Weltschmerz]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

So an Armenian who just considered himself European and perhaps the victim of Mongolian barbarism and genocide (Turkey) could very well be accepted here on Stirpes?

I haven't looked into the question much, but there's a thread on the subject: Do you regard Armenians as Europeans?

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

To anyone in this thread - mind if I ask:

Wasnt Armenia originally a part of Europe, consisting of all of what is now Turkey, bordering up to Greece at that time?

When was that? under which definition of Europe?

Northern Africa was too, at one time.

[Señor Malo]

The problem with Irano-Nordoid is not really that; the reasons of his banishment were clearly explained by Mynydd earlier in this thread
Let's just mention the fact that he had a nordicist agenda as shown some posts from him here, he used Arthur Kemp as reference in a thread and that was rather on the line of the WN (he is currently member of The Armenian Aryan Forum)

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

So an Armenian who just considered himself European and perhaps the victim of Mongolian barbarism and genocide (Turkey) could very well be accepted here on Stirpes?

I am not the best suited to reply to that question and even if Armenian would not be considered as "Europeans" that would not be the reason of his ban (Myself I'm not and European but a "colonial" as many other members in this forum) but the fact that, been a WN, the kind of Nationalism he would promote is not compatible with that of the this forum

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

When was that? under which definition of Europe?

Northern Africa was too, at one time.

I will criticize you for concluding (in the Are Armenians European-thread) that Armenians are not European. And I will especially criticize that you used genetics as evidence, among other things, because genetics is at best unreliable. Its a new science, and I will have to remind you the tragedy of the extreme error rates of the first people to be sentenced to death based on DNA evidence - and that suggests how we should treat genetics in general: an experimental science, so far.

I am not sure under which definition of Europe, but I will attempt to find out, and research it a bit. Armenia should be where Turkey is, next to Greece. It should be a part of Europe. It's only getting harder and harder for Armenians to preserve themselves both racially and culturally, being surrounded by non-European, Islamic-fundamentalist countries.

[svin]

I support Armenians in their struggle for preservation of their identity and their roots, their Christian faith etc. But do the hardships they face make them European?

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by svin

I support Armenians in their struggle for preservation of their identity and their roots, their Christian faith etc. But do the hardships they face make them European?

No. Not because of the hardships they face.
Because of their Christian and European culture.
They are a part of Europe, and its easy to deny it - they seem a lot stranger now, than they would if they were neighbors to Greece. A lot of people would prefer debunking them as Asians.

[Menydh]

Their Christian.. culture... you know that it has never been as... well, it's never been it, you know that, don't you?

[Delbáeth]

Whether they be European or not, doesn't permit their mass migrations into other Nations. For example, an Armenian may be 'White', for lack of a better word, but an Armenian in Russia isn't Russian.

[Erasmus]

Originally Posted by Artavazt

the argentinian tennis player of armenian origins (david nalbandian)

His mother is of Northern-Italian descent

[Heretik]

Nothern tennisoid descent... I can't believe this thread is still alive

[Exeter]

Europe is part of the Eurasian continent. The boundaries are arbitrary.