The White Sea Baltic Race

[dharmabum]

Could someone please elaborate on this type?

[Agrippa]

Never heard about it. Baltid is a well known term, but something more specific about "White Sea Baltic Race"...well I'm curious myself what other might say.

[SouthernBoy]

I believe it's the name for a large related group containing East-Baltid and Skando-Nordid. I'm not sure which anthropologist coined it though.

[dharmabum]

I heard it being discussed on Dodona. This what little they had to say.


White Sea-Baltic race

The White Sea-Baltic (or Baltic) minor race - is a division of the major Europeoid race. It is extended in the east of the north of Europe. It is characterized by the world maximum of the light pigmentation of the skin, hair and eyes, ortognathism, soft straight or wavy hair, and the small dimensions of the orbits. It is distinguished by the very similar Atlanto-Baltic race by a low face, increased percentage of concave nasal spine, and lower stature.

The White Sea type of the Europeoid race - according to Cheboksarov, the light-haired, light eyed, snub-nosed, straight haired, undersized, short faced type of Russian people. It is different from the eastern-Baltic type due to smaller brachycephaly and in terms of more abundant beard.

The Eastern-Baltic type of the Europeoid race - according to Cheboksarov, it is the light-haired, svetloglazyy (?), snub-nosed, pryamovolosyy (?), undersized, korotkolitsyy (?) type of the Russian people. It differs from the White Sea type due to greater brachycephaly and weaker beard growth.

The Baltic type of the Europeoid race or the Baltic race - according to Bunak, it is the northern circle of types, which differ from the southern ones in terms of lighter pigmentation and other features, the exemplary analog of the White Sea-Baltic race.




I am unfamiliar with eastern European types, but curious to learn more.

[Agrippa]

Well, it seems to me that what is decribed is "White Sea" ~ West Baltid, general Baltid, Eastern Baltic should be clear. But I could be totally wrong since the description is so general and the White sea is a bad name for West Baltid, so I might be totaly wrong.

But hopefully Norda or somebody else can add more...

[Nordgau]

Originally Posted by Agrippa

Never heard about it. Baltid is a well known term, but something more specific about "White Sea Baltic Race"...well I'm curious myself what other might say.

I think in Schwidetzky, Grundlagen der Rassensystematik, where classification systems of different anthropologists are discussed, there are some comments about that type of Russian anthropology. *kopfkratz* By the way, do you know that longer contribution of Bunak on Eastern Europe in the Rassengeschichte der Menschheit series? If I remember correctly, the White-Sea-Baltics have their gig there.

I may come up with a few sentences from there tomorrow or so. (I'm in the moment in an internet café, and I don't run around with my private racist library in my pocket. )

[Nordgau]

From Grundlagen der Rassensystematik:

Die sowjetischen Autoren haben Osteuropa jedoch meistens stärker aufgegliedert, ohne daß den ausgesonderten "Typen" immer der systematische Rang von Rassen gegeben wird. Alle 4 Systeme [ČEBOKSAROV 1951, BUNAK 1956, ROGINSKIJ-LEVIN 1955/1963, DEBETZ 1955] stimmen darin überein, daß eine Nord-Südgliederung Europas das Grundkonzept darstellt. Bei den Nordeuropiden Osteuropas werden mindestens 2 Unterglieder unterschieden: Eine westliche Gruppe (Nordeuropäisch, atlantisch, atlanto-baltisch oder westbaltisch genannt) und eine mehr östliche baltische oder weißseebaltische. Die letztere entspricht nach Abbildungen und Beschreibungen am ehesten den Osteuropiden oder Ostbaltischen der westeuropäischen Klassifikatoren, hat aber ein sehr viel engeres Verbreitungsgebiet, das vor allem viel weniger weit nach Süden reicht. Die westbaltische Gruppe entspricht weitgehend den Nordiden anderer Klassifikatoren. (p. 77)

There is a map from Roginskij and Levin, 1955 given, where as realm of the White Sea-Baltic race a space is given which starts in the Baltic countries and stretches up to eastern Finland and the northern Russian area south of the White Sea.

More:

Die jüngsten umfangreichen anthropologischen Bevölkerungsuntersuchungen in der Sowjetunion (BUNAK 1965, DJAČENKO 1965, VITOV-MARK-ČEBOKSAROV 1959) gelangen zu einer Gliederung in Bevölkerungskomplexe, morphologische Komplexe oder Typen, und zwar aufgrund geographischer Merkmalskombinationen. Es werden dabei zahlreiche auch morphognostische Merkmale berücksichtigt, die in nterschiedliche Maße zur Charakterisierung der einzelnen Komplexe beitragen. [...] Die Karten der entprechenden Einzelmerkmale zeigen keine scharfen Abgrenzungen und sehr unterschiedliche oder auch gar keine geographischen Gefälle, doch bestätigt eine multivariat-statistische mit 14 Variablen des Grundmaterials (SCHWIDETZKY 1972) eine deutliche regionale Differenzierung, die weitgehend den Bevölkerungskomplexen der sowjetischen Autoren entspricht und enge Beziehungen zur ethnischen Gliederung zeigt. (p. 77f.)

In the map of population complexes (after Alekseeva 1965 from Bunak 1965), the "White Sea Kama complex" takes the northern Russian area south of the White Sea.