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The Carnyx was once common throughout much of Europe, although only five fragments are known to us, of which Deskford is the finest. It flourished between 300BC and 200AD, and found widespread use in Britain, France, parts of Germany, eastwards to Romania, and beyond. Bands of Celtic mercenaries took it on their travels; Carnyces were present at the attack on the Greek sanctuary at Delphi in 279BC; Carnyces defied Julius Caesar in Gaul; Carnyces faced Claudius when he invaded Britain.
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- Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922)

The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth.
For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
- Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596).

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- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation.
- Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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There are some good stuffs on Prehistoric Music Ireland. Those Irish guys have made some ancient instruments. Before called prehistoricmusic.com, now: http://homepage.eircom.net/~bronzeagehorns/

Some samples there too.
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The link keeps taking me to http://www.microsoft.com/, for some strange reason
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- Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922)

The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth.
For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
- Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596).

The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation.
- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation.
- Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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The link keeps taking me to http://www.microsoft.com/, for some strange reason
OK. It's fixed now. Try again. It sounds a bit new age. I guess their music is influenced by world and ethnic music.
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Nice link. Although at times I did expect Crocodile Dundee to start talking through the music
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- Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922)

The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth.
For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
- Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596).

The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation.
- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

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Nice link. Although at times I did expect Crocodile Dundee to start talking through the music
Yeah. They use didgeridoo, that's their "tolerant" part I suppose. They'd only use protohistoric irish instruments. Nice project anyway.
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Those old Celts were very noisy people, for example the bag-pipes I suffer round here in Summer; and now the horns, well there is none near at least.

They should be deaf before getting old.
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Those old Celts were very noisy people, for example the bag-pipes I suffer round here in Summer; and now the horns, well there is none near at least.

They should be deaf before getting old.
Bagpipe is a somewhat recent and not Celtic instrument per se; it was in use all over Europe in the Middle Age till the 17th century. It's just that that tradition has been maintened in the celtic areas.
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As far as I remember, the earliest bagpipes were found in Egypt.
Perhaps there is something in those Milesian stories afterall. It seems that the bagpipes exist everwhere the Celts are reputed to have been
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- Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922)

The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth.
For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
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- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

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In the Roman sources there are frequent references to the use of horns, cornu, by Gauls, Celtiberians and other Celtic peoples in Spain.
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As far as I remember, the earliest bagpipes were found in Egypt.
Perhaps there is something in those Milesian stories afterall. It seems that the bagpipes exist everwhere the Celts are reputed to have been

I have been reading a book called 'Black spark, white fire.' I haven't finished reading it yet, and haven't quite made my mind up about the authors approach and theory (he does seem very naive in European history and "anti" European)

But, the similarities between the Egyptians and Celts is remarkable.
One notable similarity is the insistence upon the priestly caste to study for 20 years.
With the stone structures in Europe pre-dating Egypt, have people never thought that the Europeans may have influenced the Egyptians?


P.S. I was in a Metal band as a teenager called "the Carnyx"

We rocked!
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