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Monday, March 21st, 2005
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Wendy Wood - Scottish Patriot and Nationalist
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences 
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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Re: Wendy Wood - Scottish Patriot and Nationalist
Great article. Thanks for the link.
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My business is to succeed, and I am good at it. I create my Iliad by my actions, create it day by day. - Napoleon Bonaparte
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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Re: Wendy Wood - Scottish Patriot and Nationalist
interesting link indeed. however rather sad to note that after this woman's struggle, there seems to be no one able or willing to carry the baton.
take a look at what's happening in Wendy Wood's neck of the woods ..... Asylum seekers get IVF on NHS before native Scots. 23rd March 2005 - News article filed by BNP news team Scotland has a falling birthrate, yet asylum seekers jump queue for IVF. Asylum seekers in Scotland will be given free NHS fertility treatment on demand which will mean they will have receive treatment almost three times as quickly as many childless Scots families even though they have paid into the NHS all their lives. Labour Ministers have told Scottish doctors they must provide In Vitro Fertilisation (IVF) - at a cost per treatment of around £2,700 - to asylum seekers on exactly the same basis as Scottish patients even if the Scottish patients have been waiting for years for treatment. The shock order was given to doctors in Scotland after asylum seekers sought IVF from the NHS in Scotland and their doctors decided to seek the advice of health officials on whether they should provide the treatment on the NHS. Free treatment Ministers have not only authorised courses of free IVF for those applying for asylum but have even ruled that the courses of IVF treatment, which can go on for several months or even years, should continue even if the patient’s application to remain in the UK is rejected and they should leave the country as failed asylum seekers. Waiting lists Fertility treatment waiting lists across many parts of Scotland - including Edinburgh and Dundee - stand at an average of two years for couples with fertility problems. The shortest waiting list for IVF treatment, at nine months, is in Glasgow where the vast majority of asylum seekers are also based. It means that many immigrant women claiming asylum in Scotland and who live in Glasgow will receive IVF treatment far quicker than Scottish women living elsewhere in the country such as in Dundee. The new Scottish Executive guidance to NHS fertility clinics regarding free IVF treatment for asylum seekers states: "Provided a hospital is satisfied that an asylum seeker meets the criteria for infertility treatment, which obviously is a matter for clinical judgment in each case, it should be given." Allowed to stay The guidance then goes on to state that even if asylum seekers who are in the middle of IVF treatment are then told to leave the country and their asylum claims are rejected that "they must be allowed to stay until the course of treatment is complete". The possibility of asylum seekers using IVF treatment as a way of staying in the country and avoiding deportation is now a distinct possibility. Critics also point out that asylum seeker mothers who are pregnant or have a child have a far greater chance of staying in the UK and that they fear that this new ' IVF and Asylum ' policy will make it more difficult to remove rejected bogus asylum seekers. International health service The decision to give asylum seekers free IVF treatment has already been taken in many English areas, prompting claims that the NHS was encouraging "test-tube tourism" and encouraging immigrants from around the world to use the ' International Health Service ' of Britain as a free medical facility paid for by the British people. The fact that thousands of British born couples desperate for a baby will now have to watch asylum seekers taking their places in the queue for IVF is a disgusting abuse of the powers of the government. source : bnp.org.uk
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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Re: Wendy Wood - Scottish Patriot and Nationalist
Let's not forget that Wendy would have hated the people who compiled that article (British Nationalist Party) as much as any of the immigrants
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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What about these guys: http://www.snp.org/
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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My business is to succeed, and I am good at it. I create my Iliad by my actions, create it day by day. - Napoleon Bonaparte
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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"The SNP is committed to the principle of equality of opportunity. That means the prohibition of discrimination on the grounds of race, gender, age, sexuality, faith, belief, ability, status or social background in the exercise of constitutional rights" Sounds like a Multicultural Liberal thing to me, not really Nationalist.
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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Yes, the BNP are an anaethema to authentic nationalists. They aren't nationalists despite the name but unionists.
As for the SNP, I think they are basically like most modern mainstream political parties. I don't think they would do anything seriously radical such as put a stop to immigration or anything like that. What they would do though is take Scotland out of the U.K, and that has got to be a start.
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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Well, they are nationalist in as far as they are anti-unionist. But you are right, they aren't offering anything substantial other than this one thing. Otherwise, things under the SNP would continue pretty much the same with perhaps a bit more emphasis on Scottish culture, language, etc. But this would be offset by the continued liberalism they share with most political parties nowadays. One could hope though that the nationalist feeling they would encourage could eventually inspire people to take enough pride in their country to start opposing immigration
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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" ...... grow the population by 3% over the next 10 years so instead of losing 60,000 people as predicted, gain 150,000 by creating opportunities so fewer Scots would feel the need to leave, more Scots would return, and more ‘new Scots’ would come to Scotland......" i am rather skeptical as to how much Wendy Wood would have wanted the "new Scots" to be "hatched" via IVF and billed to the NHS thanks to asylum seekers.
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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Yes, if you read the article about her she quickly became disillusioned by the SNP many decades ago. Although to be fair, few political parties today are the same as what they once where. Just look at Sinn Fein for example.
Liberalism and Multiculturalism have infected almost every facet of politics. There are extremiely xenophobic groups in Scotland such as Scottish Watch and Settler Watch who actively intimidate English people who buy land or try to settle in Scotland. They have caused several families to move back to England over the years. However, these are fringe groups and are not in the mainstream. Most Scots have a milder form of nationalistic pride than this
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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If you view the English as foreign to Scotland then the BNP are pro-immigration
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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Thursday, March 24th, 2005
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Re: Wendy Wood - Scottish Patriot and Nationalist
thanks Milesian
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