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ZORRO FROM WEXFORD?


About a year and a half ago, a couple of newspapers devoted some space to claims that Zorro - as in 'the mark of' - was from the south east of Ireland. We meant to mention it, but never quite got round to it.
A certain Fabio Troncarelli, Professor of History at Italy's Viterbo University, apparently found "detailed proof" in the Vatican's Inquisition archives. He discovered that Zorro, the masked Robin Hood of Mexico was in fact a bloke from Wexford called William Lamport.

According to the Inquisition records, Lamport born to a well-off Irish family in 1615, and educated by the Jesuits in Dublin and London. After making himself distinctly unpopular for his anti-English opinions, he cleared off to sea, and hooked up with some pirates. From our understanding of Wexford during this period, meeting up with pirates would have a simple enough matter - piracy seems to have fuelled the local economy. In his early twenties, Lamport ended up in Spain, where he became known as 'Guillen Lombardo'.

After Lamport fought with Spain in the war against France, he came to the attention of Duke of Olivares, chief minister at the court of Philip IV of Spain. He fell from grace, and fled to Mexico after a scandal involving a Spanish noblewoman. It really was a case of out of the frying pan, and into the fire; the Inquisition accused him of conspiring against Spain. His alleged plans involved freeing the slaves and setting himself up as king. After several bouts of imprisonment, they eventually toasted him at the stake... but true to form, Lamport got the last laugh, and strangled himself with the rope that had been used to secure him to the stake.




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I am certaily no expert on "Zorro" but I think he was a California Mexican. Actually, we had more than one person who might have added to this Mexican hero legend. Shortly after the Americans took California in 1850, a man of Mexican ancestry Joachin Murrieta's very hot Mexican wife was gang raped in the dirt, before his eyes, by several lusty Americans. Joachin became a bandit, killing Americans whenever he could after that. He became a hero to the poor Mexicans and Indios who suddenly found themselves in a country into which they were not born. Finally, he was shot dead and his head put into a "pickle jar", if this means anything to you, where the head toured various bars and restaurants for the next few years. There were other outlaw Mexicans at the time or near that time and I think the sum total of these legends became Zorro.
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Yeah, right. And the following article (in Spanish) states that according to an Italian professor of Latin Paleography, the legend of El Zorro is a work of Freemasonry.

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ostiene Fabio Troncarelli, profesor de Paleografía Latina de la Universidad de Viterbo (Italia), que la leyenda del Zorro es obra de la masonería. Y añade que la Z que con tanta destreza marcaba el popular espadachín en la frente de sus malvados adversarios no era sino una clave masónica, el signo semítico «Ziza», símbolo de la energía vital, de la luz que rasga las tinieblas.

Fabio Troncarelli, professor of Latin Paleography of the University of Viterbo (Italy), assures that the legend of El Zorro is a work of the Freemasons. He goes on to add that the Z which he so artfully marked in the forehead of his evil enemies was not but a masonic key, the Semitic sign of "Ziza", a symbol of vital energy, of the light that tears of the darkness.
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I thought the Z stood for ZOG - and that Don Diego de la Vega was indeed Rebbe El Zoggo.
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Good observation. I take it that you have also noticed the strong and extremely suspicious similarity between the Z and the esoteric geometrical shape of the star of David.

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By the way, Zorro = Fox. Which is the evidence that he was Germanic Nordic. Fox is a nickname much used for Germanics.. like Rommel (also, don't miss the evidence provided by the [coincidential? I'd say no!] use of double consonants both in Zorro and Rommel).
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