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EDUCATION Minister Mary Hanafin faces imminent High Court action over the teaching of English in all-Irish schools.

This emerged last night as documents came to light casting doubts on the curriculum being used in all schools over the past eight years.

The court action will be taken if the minister does not withdraw her controversial circular which said that Gaelscoil and Gaeltacht schools cannot delay the introduction of English classes beyond January for junior infants.
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For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
- Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596).

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- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

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I'm not sure if having Margaret Thatcher as PM of Ireland would have been as negative as that Mary Hanafin.
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Considering that the Dublin government are so weak and slavishly follow Westminister's lead in most things, it wouldn't suprise me if Thatcher actually had been the Prime Minster behind the scenes anway.
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- Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922)

The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth.
For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
- Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596).

The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation.
- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation.
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This is not isolated from other doings elsewhere. For multiculturalism to advance it is mandatory to supress any signs of native identity in Europe.

This should give a clue of how inconvenient.. really, mistaken are any constructs not only of pan-europeanism but also of pan-nationalism.
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By the way, I notice that her family name is characteristically Gaelic, and so is the name of her party, the Fianna Fáil.

Aptrgangr asked me the other night what would be the Greek word for "self", in an attempt to give self-hatred a label name in the line of xenophobia (hate for the foreigner). No idea what the Greek word for "self" is, but I thought that the Greek word endo (within, inside, inner) would be appropriate here, as I could confirm when I saw the word endofobia (endophobia) being proposed by a known Spanish sociologist.

So this is yet another case of endophobia.
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By the way, I notice that her family name is characteristically Gaelic, and so is the name of her party, the Fianna Fáil.

Aptrgangr asked me the other night what would be the Greek word for "self", in an attempt to give self-hatred a label name in the line of xenophobia (hate for the foreigner). No idea what the Greek word for "self" is, but I thought that the Greek word endo (within, inside, inner) would be appropriate here, as I could confirm when I saw the word endofobia (endophobia) being proposed by a known Spanish sociologist.

So this is yet another case of endophobia.
Autophobia. (autos = "self", among other things)
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She should be opposed by all means, legal and, if necessary, illegal.
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By the way, I notice that her family name is characteristically Gaelic, and so is the name of her party, the Fianna Fáil.
They are only called Fianna Fail because they don't know enough Irish to rename themselves Soldiers of Corruption in their native tongue (Gaeilge, not Lies that is )
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- Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922)

The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth.
For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
- Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596).

The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation.
- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation.
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They are only called Fianna Fail because they don't know enough Irish to rename themselves Soldiers of Corruption in their native tongue (Gaeilge, not Lies that is )

So Fianna Failed,

(It would be great that Irish kids could learn and speak both Irish and English properly. )
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So Fianna Failed,
Probably more truthful.

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- Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922)

The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth.
For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
- Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596).

The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation.
- Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature

Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation.
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