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Default The Invasion of Europe a Myth - American dixit

Well, before even worrying about what we see on the streets of our respective countries, of our cities, on our neighbourhoods, on the streets, next to our doors, we should have consulted an American expert in Europe.

And well, it is not as if we lacked of American euro-experts. Some forum boards are literally populated with not just American euro-academics but also American euro-gurus who will tell you what to do exactly.

The problem is that perhaps we are looking at things wrongly and what we believe to be seeing is not what is happening. Either that, or I can only find one other explanation to the follwing article in the New York Post.
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THE 'EURABIA' MYTH
MUSLIMS TAKE OVER EUROPE? SORRY, THERE'S NO CHANCE

by Ralph Peters

A RASH of pop prophets tell us that Muslims in Europe are reproducing so fast and European societies are so weak and listless that, before you know it, the continent will become "Eurabia," with all those topless gals on the Riviera wearing veils.

Well, maybe not.

The notion that continental Europeans, who are world-champion haters, will let the impoverished Muslim immigrants they confine to ghettos take over their societies and extend the caliphate from the Amalfi Coast to Amsterdam has it exactly wrong.

The endangered species isn't the "peace loving" European lolling in his or her welfare state, but the continent's Muslims immigrants - and their multi-generation descendents - who were foolish enough to imagine that Europeans would share their toys.

In fact, Muslims are hardly welcome to pick up the trash on Europe's playgrounds.

Don't let Europe's current round of playing pacifist dress-up fool you: This is the continent that perfected genocide and ethnic cleansing, the happy-go-lucky slice of humanity that brought us such recent hits as the Holocaust and Srebrenica.

THE historical patterns are clear: When Europeans feel sufficiently threatened - even when the threat's concocted nonsense - they don't just react, they over-react with stunning ferocity. One of their more-humane (and frequently employed) techniques has been ethnic cleansing.

And Europeans won't even need to re-write "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" with an Islamist theme - real Muslims zealots provide Europe's bigots with all the propaganda they need. Al Qaeda and its wannabe fans are the worst thing that could have happened to Europe's Muslims. Europe hasn't broken free of its historical addictions - we're going to see Europe's history reprised on meth.

The year 1492 wasn't just big for Columbus. It's also when Spain expelled its culturally magnificent Jewish community en masse - to be followed shortly by the Moors, Muslims who had been on the Iberian Peninsula for more than 800 years.

Jews got the boot elsewhere in Europe, too - if they weren't just killed on the spot. When Shakespeare wrote "The Merchant of Venice," it's a safe bet he'd never met a Jew. The Chosen People were long-gone from Jolly Olde England.

From the French expulsion of the Huguenots right down to the last century's massive ethnic cleansings, Europeans have never been shy about showing "foreigners and subversives" the door.

And Europe's Muslims don't even have roots, by historical standards. For the Europeans, they're just the detritus of colonial history. When Europeans feel sufficiently provoked and threatened - a few serious terrorist attacks could do it - Europe's Muslims will be lucky just to be deported.

Sound impossible? Have the Europeans become too soft for that sort of thing? Has narcotic socialism destroyed their ability to hate? Is their atheism a prelude to total surrender to faith-intoxicated Muslim jihadis?

The answer to all of the above questions is a booming "No!" The Europeans have enjoyed a comfy ride for the last 60 years - but the very fact that they don't want it to stop increases their rage and sense of being besieged by Muslim minorities they've long refused to assimilate (and which no longer want to assimilate).

WE don't need to gloss over the many Muslim acts of barbarism down the centuries to recognize that the Europeans are just better at the extermination process. From the massacre of all Muslims and Jews (and quite a few Eastern Christians) when the Crusaders reached Jerusalem in 1099 to the massacre of all the Jews in Buda (not yet attached to Pest across the Danube) when the "liberating" Habsburg armies retook the citadel at the end of the 17th century, Europeans have just been better organized for genocide.

It's the difference between the messy Turkish execution of the Armenian genocide and the industrial efficiency of the Holocaust. Hey, when you love your work, you get good at it.

Far from enjoying the prospect of taking over Europe by having babies, Europe's Muslims are living on borrowed time. When a third of French voters have demonstrated their willingness to vote for Jean-Marie Le Pen's National Front - a party that makes the Ku Klux Klan seem like Human Rights Watch - all predictions of Europe going gently into that good night are surreal.

I have no difficulty imagining a scenario in which U.S. Navy ships are at anchor and U.S. Marines have gone ashore at Brest, Bremerhaven or Bari to guarantee the safe evacuation of Europe's Muslims. After all, we were the only ones to do anything about the slaughter of Muslims in the Balkans. And even though we botched it, our effort in Iraq was meant to give the Middle East's Muslims a last chance to escape their self-inflicted misery.

AND we're lucky. The United States attracts the quality. American Muslims have a higher income level than our national average. We hear about the handful of rabble-rousers, but more of our fellow Americans who happen to be Muslims are doctors, professors and entrepreneurs.

And the American dream is still alive and well, thanks: Even the newest taxi driver stumbling over his English grammar knows he can truly become an American.

But European Muslims can't become French or Dutch or Italian or German. Even if they qualify for a passport, they remain second-class citizens. On a good day. And they're supposed to take over the continent that's exported more death than any other?

All the copy-cat predictions of a Muslim takeover of Europe not only ignore history and Europe's ineradicable viciousness, but do a serious disservice by exacerbating fear and hatred. And when it comes to hatred, trust me: The Europeans don't need our help.

The jobless and hopeless kids in the suburbs may burn a couple of cars, but we'll always have Paris.

Ralph Peters' latest book is "Never Quit the Fight."


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"This is the continent that perfected genocide and ethnic cleansing, the happy-go-lucky slice of humanity that brought us such recent hits as the Holocaust and Srebrenica."

Because murdering thousands of Native Americans, putting them on reserves, futile attempts at assimilation that destroyed their culture totally was different...

As well as the camps were they kept Japanese and Germans... and "enemies".. yes... taking away other people's belongings and sending them to camps... never heard of that before...

Apart from dropping two atomic bombs, destroying jungle in the Vietnam war (as well as making the environment hazardous to the populus' well-being), and torturing prisoners of war...

"After all, we were the only ones to do anything about the slaughter of Muslims in the Balkans. And even though we botched it, our effort in Iraq was meant to give the Middle East's Muslims a last chance to escape their self-inflicted misery."

Dropping bombs on civilians isn't exactly nice either... nor is attempting to change another's "backwards" culture to suit one's own, under the guise of "improving" it....

<sarcasm> Of course Europe is way worse than America. </sarcasm>

Maybe he should live in one of the Parisian suburbs and have his car burnt every week...
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Default Re: The Invasion of Europe a Myth - American dixit

I found the comments regarding Marines picking up muslims in European cities hilarious. Of course we all know that when it comes to people getting "hurt" the US is always there to save and protect, like in world war II when they saved the jews before the third reich started
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What a joke..

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Jean-Marie Le Pen's National Front - a party that makes the Ku Klux Klan seem like Human Rights Watch
ROFL! Seems like that guy is an expert of French and European politics... Ralph Peters, please, send me an email when you'll see FN members burning a Black man at a cross...

By the way Mynydd, this reminds me of an old idea of yours, a thread dedicated to Anglo-Saxon crimes... (or was it a whole sub-forum? "Anglosphere" if I'm not mistaken? )
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Default Re: The Invasion of Europe a Myth - American dixit

Aaahhh, yes.. The Anglosphere! mmhhh.. vade retro Satana!

Think that these are the idiots who have been ruling the world in the last half century.

I've heard more than one yankee idiot arguing in his favour that since then there have been no more wars in Europe. Noooo! For the first time ever we are being exterminated without even being able to take up on arms!
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I think now that "wars" are fought with economics and politics rather than soldiers... (with the exception of the wars in the middle east, because it's hard to hurt someone economically who has more oil than you do, and it is difficult to have political negotiations with Islamics because their politics are written into their religion, as I recall)...
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Obviously, the devil has two faces: the one is telling there is no problem, (Muslim) immigration issue does not exist, it is all propaganda and paranoia; the other tells you the situation is so grave that everything is ruined, Europe is over, the only thing you can do is migrate to New Zealand.
This article belongs to the first of these above-mentioned "schools of thought"...

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That's quite a vicious article, and as for 'hating', one can only work on the presumption that he is projecting.

Peters is a firm believer in the multi-cultural ideology of the United States, and thus strongly supports the multi-cults' current economic/identity war on Islam and the Middle East, aka 'the war on terror', 'WWIII', etc. I'd suspect part of the motivation for his writing this nonsense is his belief that Europe is 'not contributing enough' to that war. While Europeans certainly are having very real problems with Moslems (often enough due largely to the multi-culturalists 'importing' them to exploit as cheap labor) and may very well at a certain time have to fight them, it's certainly not in the Europeans' interest to fight Islamics under the auspices of the cult. For in the warped ideology of the multi-culturalists it is not that the identity a people might have is 'good' or 'bad' per se, but merely that the identity exist that requires a peoples' destruction. In other words the multi-culturalists hate the Europeans every bit as much as they hate the Islamics, or any other people which have an identity for that matter, and would likely use the opportunity of a war they were directing to hurt Europeans every bit as badly as the Moslems....a chance as they would see it to get at two birds with one stone as it were. For this reason too, the sooner the European troops leave Lebanon the better.

To give a bit of insight into his thinking, he wrote in one of his latest books, New Glory: Expanding America\'s Global Supremacy, that Americans

"are so successful, so powerful, so wealthy-and so humane-that our very existence humiliates the failed and failing around the world,"

Peters is nuts.

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Ralph Peters made some unreal statements about Europeans and Islamics. Let us see what he had to say regarding Islam and the Middle East in an interview. These are certainly not the words of affection.

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"In the collective culture of the Middle East, we're dealing with a deeply neurotic, if not outright psychotic civilization. I wish I could be more positive. But the average Middle Eastern male just has snakes in his head."
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"The populations of the Middle East blew it. They've failed. Thirteen hundred years of effort came down to an entire civilization that can't design and build an automobile. And thanks to the wonders of the media age, it's daily rubbed in their faces how badly they've failed.

Oil wealth? A tragedy for the Arabs, since it gave the wealth to the most backward. The Middle East still does not have a single world-class university outside of Israel. Not one. The oil money has been thrown away--it's been a drug, not a tool.

The terrorists don't want progress. They want revenge..."
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"...Jealousy is a natural, deep human emotion, which afflicts us all in our personal lives--to some degree. But when it afflicts an entire civilization, it's tragic. The failed civilization of the Middle East--where not one of the treasured local values is functional in the globalized world--is morbidly jealous of us. They've succumbed to a culture of--and addiction to--blame. Instead of facing up to the need to change and rolling up their sleeves, they want the world to conform to their terms. Ain't going to happen, Mustapha."
Leaving aside the rightness or wrongness of Islam (I'm not particularly sympathetic to it) Peters most likely desires a multi-culturalized Islam, that is a broken Islam with little or no real identity, and which is of course what multi-culturalism more or less desires for just about most every people on the planet

As stated, the man is nuts..
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Ralph Peters is full of shit, plain and simple. His writings on military affairs and geo-politics Ive always found to be complete jokes!
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