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Do you agree with the implementation of school uniforms as a state law? Why?
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I think they can help out the economy a bit. If there is no uniforms like the American system, parents have to spend more money towards clothes, if you have the uniform you dont have to worry that much about that, plus also I guess it can be added as a bonus that social class barriers can be eliminated since clothes can often define where you stand in society .
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School is not army. I think that children have right to express theirselves in clothes too.
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Personally, I like the idea of uniforms. I think they are smart and they give an ethos that the students should take pride in their school and thus it's reputation for excellence and within the community.

However, I don't think it is of such over-riding importance that it should be made compulsory.
I would like to see it encouraged although not necessarily enforced.
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I've yet to cast my opinion so here it is: Yes. I think school uniforms create a empathy for school and a sense of belonging, something that i've seen fading way since my times at school to the present. What you wear (in modern society) tends to be a "statement" of where you stand in political/cultural stance and the result is that teen groups (goths, rockers, headbangers, rappers, etc) tend to use clothing as a mean to stand out from the crowd while uniforms create a sense of homogeneity which is important is breaking social/cultural barriers in the sense that it unifies the whole student core.
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With school uniforms, would be easier to forbide mosleem schoolgirls to wear head scarfs ...
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With school uniforms, would be easier to forbide mosleem schoolgirls to wear head scarfs ...
I'm personally not against Muslims wearing headscarves. If that is what their religion requires then so be it. I wouldn't tell them they couldn't wear an item of clothing. The real issue is not what Muslims wear on their head, but the fact that their are Muslims in European countries in the first place......especially in large enough numbers to make this an issue.
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For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish.
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Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation.
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Absolutely yes, it would be first step to reinstitute discipline and common courtesy that a lot of schools seem to lack these days.
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If skirt is included for girls, I agree.

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With school uniforms, would be easier to forbide mosleem schoolgirls to wear head scarfs ...
It would be even easier if they didn't live here. Whatever they wear, be they kind or bad, they don't belong here.

I'm all for the headscarfs, for it makes immigration and its effects more visible to the population.
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Personally, I like the idea of uniforms. I think they are smart and they give an ethos that the students should take pride in their school and thus it's reputation for excellence and within the community.

However, I don't think it is of such over-riding importance that it should be made compulsory.
I would like to see it encouraged although not necessarily enforced.
Couldn't have said it better.

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I've yet to cast my opinion so here it is: Yes. I think school uniforms create a empathy for school and a sense of belonging, something that i've seen fading way since my times at school to the present.
I really don't know how it is in Lisbon, but here, Coimbra, most freshmen thrill when they can wear the uniform, the traje, as you know it.
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I'm all for the headscarfs, for it makes immigration and its effects more visible to the population.
Exactly. The whole headscarf issue merely was an attempt to better integrate the immigrants into the host population. A cynical move at best.
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Exactly. The whole headscarf issue merely was an attempt to better integrate the immigrants into the host population. A cynical move at best.
You are both right, Milesian & Duchemin. Moreover is bit the headscarf itself the problem: but what it represents = a derrogatory treatment to women
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I really don't know how it is in Lisbon, but here, Coimbra, most freshmen thrill when they can wear the uniform, the traje, as you know it.
My brother-in-law is in Coimbra too, in Veterinary. I was in FLUL (Faculdade de Letras da Universidade de Lisboa) in Archeology and I even bought my traje and wore it in the second year....( i was in the tuna ) Who knows, i'm thinking of going back and finishing my degree.

Anyway, the traje is academic garment while "school uniform" is for younger students, something like this:

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I vote yes.My father when he was in highschool wear a uniform!My generation didn't.Uniform is a sign of discipline!
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Yes, because with uniforms, class differences disappear. You all look the same and you have the same opportunities, rich as poor. Al-tough in a ideal society there wouldn't be that big "class" differences.
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You are both right, Milesian & Duchemin. Moreover is bit the headscarf itself the problem: but what it represents = a derrogatory treatment to women
Just when I thought that they used them to hide ugly faces..
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