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In Sweden at least you have no choice. If you do not wish to be silent about your opinions, you must avoid all public employers, since they will sack you as soon as your "nazi" views become known. I think being self-employed is a good option then, but it is also less financially secure usually.
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I think the best place is teaching. Here in Spain separatists are growing up for this reason. The State has delegated the Education to the Regions and some of them (Basque land, Catalonia and others) are teaching children to hate the Fatherland. It's not a matter of teaching languages such as Catalan or Basque because I consider them as Spanish languages like the Castilian.

False history is making Spanis children against Spanish nation.

Regarding the Police or Army, it's true that there are many comrades there but at the end they are fighting us...
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In Sweden at least you have no choice. If you do not wish to be silent about your opinions, you must avoid all public employers, since they will sack you as soon as your "nazi" views become known. I think being self-employed is a good option then, but it is also less financially secure usually.
So true. But it is such a shame...and interesting though is the fact that these preordained values preach tolerance and acceptance and yet it is only tolerance and acceptance of values and ideas that are considered ' politically correct' by them. They say if your opinions and ideals do not fit into this category you are not fit for public positions as you are not 'openminded' enough...such hypocrisy and stupidity.
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I think the best place is teaching. Here in Spain separatists are growing up for this reason. The State has delegated the Education to the Regions and some of them (Basque land, Catalonia and others) are teaching children to hate the Fatherland. It's not a matter of teaching languages such as Catalan or Basque because I consider them as Spanish languages like the Castilian.

False history is making Spanis children against Spanish nation.

Regarding the Police or Army, it's true that there are many comrades there but at the end they are fighting us...
Could you please explain to ignorant me what you mean...are these schools choosing to teach the children to become separatists and they can do that without anybody interfering?
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So true. But it is such a shame...and interesting though is the fact that these preordained values preach tolerance and acceptance and yet it is only tolerance and acceptance of values and ideas that are considered ' politically correct' by them. They say if your opinions and ideals do not fit into this category you are not fit for public positions as you are not 'openminded' enough...such hypocrisy and stupidity.
What the multicultists forget is that good fences make good neighbors. Respect and tolerance must go hand it hand with healthy boundaries between peoples.
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My ideal choice would be for armed forces or police force.............although , it's a pure ideal choice i repeat. Cause the reasons reported by several others in the first posts. In a realistic sense i don't know honestly.
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Could you please explain to ignorant me what you mean...are these schools choosing to teach the children to become separatists and they can do that without anybody interfering?
Yes. In the "ikastolas" (Basque for schools) ever since ~25-30 years ago, they've taught generations a false history about the Basques and Spain.

For a start, they don't teach them that Castilla, the old kingdom that they accuse of being "a Spanish invader", was a creation of mainly Basque peoples expanding South.

They too teach that the Basque lands were deprived of their fueros* by Spain (what is Spain but a union of Hispanic territories, including the ultra-Hispanic Basque lands). Untrue. The Basque Country were deprived from their Fueros by the monarchy after they supported in several civil wars the cause of the Carlist Traditionalists (hard line anti-liberal Patriotic [Nationalist] Spanish). Other old territories were deprived by the monarchy of their Fueros in different periods of history.
But most important, the Kingdom of Castilla was the first in being deprive of her Fueros after the Imperial Armies crushed a Castillian rebelion... with the help of the Basque lords!!!

The list of lies is non-stopping, and many are ridiculous to extremes that you wouldn't believe. Take a child at his tender ages, raise him in a world of lies, and the chances that he ever discovers the true are extremely slim, near zero.

The Basque independentist ideology was created in the late XIXth (19th) century and, incredibly enough, as a degeneration of the much noble and much pro-hispanic ideology: Traditionalism. The story is insane.

The Basques are the oldest Hispanic people, and the epitome of the virtues and deffect of the Spanish people. The greatest Spanish patriotic Philosophers were Basque men like Ramiro de Maeztu or, especially, Miguel de Unamuno ("me duele España" ... Spain hurts me.. as in "I bleed for Spain").
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Oh.. and not to forget that the Castilian language (what you know as "Spanish language") is the Romance language spoken by Bascoid people. Which is why it is unique among Romance languages in general, and Ibero-Romance languages in particular.

But they much prefer to keep new generations ignorant of such things.
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In here the government had recently issued a new binding guideline for schools concerning for example the basis of values teachers are supposed to be teaching to their students. This binds schools into values that are considered "politically correct" these days...And should a teacher, any teacher, history, science, literature...whatever..step outside these preordained values they stand in risk of losing their jobs.


Should a teacher in here have any values and opinions that do not fit into this category of preapproved multicultural ideas he/she must be extremely careful in voicing these as it is such a taboo in the school world.

How then, to stay true to your ideology and your values in your work when your work essentially deems these inappropriate and forbidden? Keeping in mind that one wants to still KEEP the job...
Well, yes, but the Authorities can´t actually control a teacher in a classroom. I have been working as a history teacher for the last three years. Although my viewpoint is quite patriotic/nationalistic, I have never had any problems with the headmaster. And I can promise you that my pupils really learn real history of Finland and real history of the World - absolutely no politically correct fable.
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Well, yes, but the Authorities can´t actually control a teacher in a classroom. I have been working as a history teacher for the last three years. Although my viewpoint is quite patriotic/nationalistic, I have never had any problems with the headmaster. And I can promise you that my pupils really learn real history of Finland and real history of the World - absolutely no politically correct fable.
Very good. But how many history teachers like you are there? And how many children are there being taught precisely this politically correct version of our history? Having been in the wonderful world of education for quite some time now myself I must say that in my experience teachers do self-censor themselves in this case a lot for fear of repercussions. And also I think this depends a lot on the values of those in charge...

And of course, this is not just a question of history but of the all pervasive preordained " values " that ALL teachers, no matter what their subject, are supposed to implement in their teaching. As you obviously are aware of, the new national curriculum set by the Ministry of Education demands schools to write their own curriculums based on the national one. In every subject being taught in schools they must put down in writing how THEY are going to implement these "value concepts" in those subjects. Having been a part of this process I must say that it is quite stupefying...The religion/ethics teacher is supposed to teach the children that everybody is born equal and that all religions can and shall live hand in hand in a world all of which belongs to all of us...and in here I must quote Scoob in saying that good fences make good neighbours. The languages teacher is supposed to teach the children multiculturalism through listening of rap-music...I am not making this up, this is how they make the schoolbooks these days. The guidance counsellor is supposed to take the children to the refugee centers to ostensibly teach them to value multiculturalism...but really, what is that but transferring unnecessary collective guilt to yet another generation?

Everywhere they go our children are bombarded with images and messages that can eventually make them disregard their own heritage in favour of the ones they see depicted as desirable, right now that seems to be the rap/hiphop culture... Children spend a huge portion of their time in schools, so what better place than schools and what better position than a teacher has is there to raise the children to respect their OWN culture?
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And nowadays we here in Germany are always told, that Finland, is the incarnated paradise of school-education, though as you report it/make it look, it apparently does not hold this ideal, implied into our minds, by the media.

It seems to be the same situation, as we obtain and are able to spectate evolving here, in Finland, thus it is not only a delusion inherent in Germany, that our children strictly are forced into a school system, merely intended to beat ideas of cultural inheritance out of the youth's heads, in order to tie them tighter to the moral columm of "Democracy".

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Well, yes, but the Authorities can´t actually control a teacher in a classroom. I have been working as a history teacher for the last three years. Although my viewpoint is quite patriotic/nationalistic, I have never had any problems with the headmaster. And I can promise you that my pupils really learn real history of Finland and real history of the World - absolutely no politically correct fable.
Were/are there no problems with either the school, the municipality or even the state?
I sincerely congratulate you, that you, having chosen teacher as your profession, provide your pupils with the truth so dearly missed to be elaborated by the politicians of particular countries!

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And nowadays we here in Germany are always told, that Finland, is the incarnated paradise of school-education, though as you report it/make it look, it apparently does not hold this ideal, implied into our minds, by the media.


It seems to be the same situation, as we obtain and are able to spectate evolving here, in Finland, thus it is not only a delusion inherent in Germany, that our children strictly are forced into a school system, merely intended to beat ideas of cultural inheritance out of the youth's heads, in order to tie them tighter to the moral columm of "Democracy".

Were/are there no problems with either the school, the municipality or even the state?
I sincerely congratulate you, that you, having chosen teacher as your profession, provide your pupils with the truth so dearly missed to be elaborated by the politicians of particular countries!



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That would be due to the Pisa Report which tests children on their ability in various school subjects and then rates different school systems of different countries on the basis of this. In this study the Finnish schoolchildren excelled, thus bringing on this glory on the entire school system. But so, the children learn how to read and write, they learn to do chemistry and to excel in languages...but what about the values they learn to live by? There has yet to be a study done on that but I expect the results would chill me to the core..

And that is indeed no delusion but hard reality.



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