Meta-ethnicity poll

[Fantom]

Originally Posted by Vojvoda

You must be from Banat

No, it's long story

[Prinz Eugen]

Hellenic with some Romance(grand mother from my father's side from North Italy).

[snowwolfriv]

my family came from germany and moved to Holland, so that's easy to answer this poll.

[Whiteruthenian]

- Other (please specify)

All the enumerated communities are linguistic, so saying that somebody is 50% Slavic and %50 Baltic means only that for half of his/her ancestors a Baltic language was native and for another half a Slavic one. There is hardly point in talking about ‘blood’ in this case.

I might vote for:

- Polesian. The dialect of my native village is called ‘Eastern Polesian’ and has some ‘Ukrainian’ traits which separate us a bit from the rest of Belarusians, also the landscape is different etc. Ukrainian Polesians also have some traits which separate them from the rest of Ukrainians and made them closer to Belarusians. The same may be applied to the Russian and Polish parts of Polesia. But nevertheless Polesians are one of the two parts of the Belarusian nation – it is stated even in the folklore, in the tale “Palešuki j paleviki” for instance. To be honest its statements are so clear that one may suspect it of being made up by our nationalists but not by people.

- Neosarmatian There is no such term I invented it myself. For a long time Lithuanians, Poles, Ukrainians shared the same state with Belarusians (initially their own, then under Russian occupation, after it they together lived in the communist part of Europe). Similar heritages, similar fates, similar problems – there is no wonder that it makes me sympathize with them. So why neosarmatian meta-ethnicity shouldn’t exist? The idea of joining the EU is sick but the idea of Rzecz Pospolita’s rebirth – I would carefully think about it.

[Susi]

Germanic?

[PermCity]

Slavic with Finno-Ugric

[Routasydän]

Finno-Ugric? While not add "indo-European" while we're at it.

Finnic or Baltic Finnish is what I'd describe myself.

[Aptrgangr]

Germanic; Celtic
To make it short - and without any %% calculation - I am predominantly a Germanic of southern German stock with an Irish paternal grandma, thanks to her I have my reddish hair...

[Menydh]

Wilpuri, why is it that you object to the meta-ethnic concept of Fino-Ugric?

Just curious.

[Routasydän]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Wilpuri, why is it that you object to the meta-ethnic concept of Fino-Ugric?

Just curious.

Because it is a purely linguistic term. I mean, it would be the same if the the Germanic, Romance and Slavic on the poll were replaced by one alternative: indo-European. It is too far ranging. I'm not Ugric in any sense of the word, as I'm sure you don't feel very Hindic.

[Menydh]

I don't feel any Hindic, no.

But don't get me wrong. The reason why I asked you is because I find meta-ethnicities highly questionable.

[Sergius]

I partially agree (although you could also discuss when and how to make use of these terms), but to me, Germanic is also largely a linguistic term. When Romance obviously alludes towards a historic empire, Germanic alludes to some 'made up' past, i.e. one that the Germanic peoples could not know about if not for archeology and other sciences. Any one united Germanic people, living in some Germanic Urheimat would most likely live in leather tents in Caucasus.
But then again, as said, that's hardly relevant unless one has in mind exactly what we need (the knowledge of) the meta-ethnicities for.

edit:

Originally Posted by Mynydd

The reason why I asked you is because I find meta-ethnicities highly questionable.

That's pretty much what I was trying to say...

[Galaico]

I agree with you two Mynydd and Ljubomir, what's the sense of trying to stablish meta-ethnicities which were broken thousands of years ago? It's nice to see a cultural reemergence, but that's all.

Personally I'm a Romance speaker, but I don't feel a stronger relation to other Romance speakers than I do to other Europeans. Hell, I feel a thousand times closer to a Brit than to a Romanian.

On the other hand, I feel strong Celtic ties with other countries such as Eire, Alba, or Breizh f.e., but all refering to cultural aspects, nothing more. Not even 100% cultural, as we Galicians don't have a Celtic language.

Paleo-Iberian is probably the term that better represents my ethnic feelings, representing the unity of the Iberian peoples, and our overwhelmingly Paleo-European origin.

So summarising, I feel as my Meta-Ethnicity the European, as my Ethnicity the Spanish/Hispanic/(Celto-)Iberian, and as my "Mini-Ethnicity" the Galician one.

[Routasydän]

Baltic Finnic peoples I feel a certain, even strong, affinity with. There is a strong perception of Finns and Estonians being brothers and sisters to one another. I think that this meta-ethnicity is enforced by shared history and fate, culture and language. Both Finns and Estonians have been the pawns of larger powers for centuries, and both have suffered at the hands of these powers, and I think it is this shared suffering that has made us closer. Also knowing the fate of other, now extinct or near-extinct Finnic peoples, has made us honour the bond that unites us, mainly language and culture.

So in this particular case, for these particular people and from my particular perspective, I don't find this example of meta-ethnicity too questionable. But the term Finno-Ugric is the wrong one to describe it.

[Ferran]

Well, when I voted in this poll I was thinking merely in linguistic terms and in no way ethnic, but come to think about it, focusing in language was certainly not the best option for a Spaniard either. Just imagine a self-respecting English-speaker Irish voting Germanic, would it make any sense?

As I said here, of all alive Meta-ethnicities I only identify myself with the Basque (which is the only remnant of the bigger and now-extinct group I would ethnically belong to, the Iberian) and to some degree the Celtic. So for unity's sake, Celtiberian works fine for me, as does Hispanic.

[Menydh]

Thank you, Ferran for the reminder. The "Similar Threads" software functions is awful at doing its job. It hasn't picked up the thread How valid are meta-ethnic designation today?