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Old Monday, January 25th, 2010, 13:20
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Default Did the Mediterraneans chase the Negroids out of Europe?

As a question, it sounds a bit idiotic

I was in a shop today and there were these old posters (197X, maybe 1974, I don't remember) with some data on the population of Europe.

Anyway there was a timeline and there was a mark at 50 000 BC saying "the Mediteranneans (or "dark race"), also known as Caucasians, expelled the Negroids from Europe"".

There was also some previous note saying that in the XXX 000 BC "The Negroids were ruling the whole of Africa and Europe".

Are these things outdated garbage or is there anything meaningful in them?
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Old Monday, January 25th, 2010, 13:27
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Are these things outdated garbage or is there anything meaningful in them?
I never heard of anything to that effect. The most ancient remains in Europe are Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon, the latter being what is the oldest "European" known.
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I think whoever created those posters needed their heads read. I've never heard of anything so ridiculous in all my life. Completely flies in the face of all that we know of prehistory.
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As a question, it sounds a bit idiotic

I was in a shop today and there were these old posters (197X, maybe 1974, I don't remember) with some data on the population of Europe.

Anyway there was a timeline and there was a mark at 50 000 BC saying "the Mediteranneans (or "dark race"), also known as Caucasians, expelled the Negroids from Europe"".

There was also some previous note saying that in the XXX 000 BC "The Negroids were ruling the whole of Africa and Europe".

Are these things outdated garbage or is there anything meaningful in them?

Yes, all that happened just before the Everchanging Norrapi, the ancient Teddy Transvestite Emperor of the 8 kingdoms of the Stars of the constellation Alpha Skunky, 4th Avatar of the 9th on the left dimension, the unnameable Bullfighter-amoeba God "Mr. Trotas", leaded to battle the 500'21 eversmiling-nanowarriors against the evil Squint Pus-Golem Puputi , "the Pus-Golem".

I was there. But that's another story...
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Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And on to this Conan...
Oh.. so perhaps it was the Schwarze-Neggers that were chased out..
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I'm happy that the topic sparked so much hilarity; I just asked because, you know, of all these theories according to which early humans were all black bla bla...
Not that it mattered...
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I'm happy that the topic sparked so much hilarity; I just asked because, you know, of all these theories according to which early humans were all black bla bla...
Not that it mattered...
Of course. What you saw doesn't surprise me, and given the constant turns in our perception of the situation I've known stranger things.

The "Negroids ruled Europe at xxxx BC" is generally a give-away sign of Afrocentrism though. That - or in tandem with - or some Atlantis-based cosmology with Hyperborians expelling them or what not.
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I was under the impression that the Negroes never left Africa, except of course those who have done so in the past 500 years to go to America and later on Europe.

I don't know exactly how the ones in Jamaica got to be there.
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So one negro ancestor (well by definition having one ancestor of any race would require having many others as their father and mother would have to be etc) is enough to be saved is it? lol they don't ask very much do they?

When they speak of 'seed' I assume they mean direct descent, would criteria for membership not merely be belonging to an African haplotype.
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I don't see what's the fuss with those Blacks claiming that nearly everything that's related to Civilisation in one way or another, came from Black people.

Nordicism has been doing exactly the same thing.
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All this fuzz about negroids peopoling Europe during Palaolithic begins with the alleged "negroid" skeletons of Grimaldi, the discovery of some crania in the Bruenn and Predmost series which allegedlly possessed some "negroid" tendencies + the alleged negroid tendencies of some individuals of the berid type (often included in the mediterranid familly by some anthropologist).

Yet all this alleged "negroid" traits in Southern Europe and some crania from the upper Palaeolithic were fully discarded and relabelled as "primitive" or "palaoanthropic" traits by Sir Arthur Keith as early as 1931 in his books "New discoveries relating to the antiquity of man".


Nest week, when I can bring back my sample from that book and scan that passage from the book, if anyone is interested ....

Also Coon in 1939 wrote that the small mediteraneans often carried a slight "negroid tendence" he surelly was assimilating berids to the small meds, IMO) and by 1950 he revised his opinion and wrote that the mediterraneans carried often "paleanthropic traits".


BTW if the sub-saharan africans really had spread all over the continents s for later beeing displaced by their current inhabitants this would imply that they are, as a race, dumber than the racist usually depict them
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Reminds me of..

A very controversial book. Claims that Ancient Greeks were black due to the fact that some eastern elements show up in their culture. While the eastern elements are there, it is due to trade and commerce..not the fact that the Greeks were black
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Reminds me of..

A very controversial book. Claims that Ancient Greeks were black due to the fact that some eastern elements show up in their culture. While the eastern elements are there, it is due to trade and commerce..not the fact that the Greeks were black
Not to tell that none of the eastern elements were even black (if by "eastern" they mean east of Greece !)
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A very controversial book. Claims that Ancient Greeks were black due to the fact that some eastern elements show up in their culture. While the eastern elements are there, it is due to trade and commerce..not the fact that the Greeks were black
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Not to tell that none of the eastern elements were even black (if by "eastern" they mean east of Greece !)
Well, Black Athena is in the same line as Karl Earlson's Nordic Hellas. The common traits in both are amusing.

The Nordicist construct also focuses on "northern" elements, which are probably present (as in the case of "eastern" elements) but not as in if these were from a Nordic north (as in the case of a Negroid east).
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I'm happy that the topic sparked so much hilarity; I just asked because, you know, of all these theories according to which early humans were all black bla bla...
Not that it mattered...
May be black in color but not in the Congoid form: the Aussie aboriginals and melanesians are the closest to primeval Homo Sapiens in terms of Morphology
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yes, nordicists and afrocentrists share a lot in common. The afrocentrists claim Ancient Egypt, and nordicists claim Rome and Athens..Hell they even work and cooperate together in the Wikipedia articles to block people and manipulate and lie about southern europeans genetics and history articles, first hand experience..

And obviously there is no evidence that the first humans were black. I think the first humans were not of any race (existing) because it took thousands of years of environment adaption to create the different races..
 

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