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Of course I assume it wasn't a consequence of a trauma
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Of course I assume it wasn't a consequence of a trauma
Looks basically Dinaric to me. So the result, according to some, of physiological adaptation to mountainous terrain.
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Looks basically Dinaric to me. So the result, according to some, of physiological adaptation to mountainous terrain.
it could be, the man (Dante Alighieri) was living in a region which is flat only in limited portions.
just the curvature looks like broken, it's a kind of... cusp... i mean it's not a continuous line... does that matter?

moreover it's very flat, almost squashed...
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Tuscany is predominantly flat and hilly but mountaineous only in its extreme northern part , there are a lot more mounty regions here , and moreover how many years would it have been taken to get a nose adapted to a mountainous terrain?
doesn't evolution work in the very long run , on a tens if not hundred thousanda years scale I mean?
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Aha! It seems Dante was a Balkanoid! He looks Dinaric, assuming this picture of him is representative. BTW, why would Dinarids live exclusively in the mountains?
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Tuscany is predominantly flat and hilly but mountaineous only in its extreme northern part , there are a lot more mounty regions here , and moreover how many years would it have been taken to get a nose adapted to a mountainous terrain?
doesn't evolution work in the very long run , on a tens if not hundred thousanda years scale I mean?
Yes, it would surely take at least a couple thousand years... probably more... although evolutionary outcomes can be unpredictable, of course.

So if the theory is correct, that those populations who adapted over time to mountainous conditions tend toward dinaricisation, then it just means that if you are dinaricised, no matter where in Europe (or beyond) you live, and even if your known ancestors have lived for many generations, some of your more ancient ancestors must have come from mountainous regions.

What is observing phenotypes interesting for, if not helping to determine migrationary patterns of human populations around the world?
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Aha! It seems Dante was a Balkanoid! He looks Dinaric, assuming this picture of him is representative. BTW, why would Dinarids live exclusively in the mountains?
We do not actually know how Dante looked like.

There are conventional representations, many from the nineteenth century, who depict him as strongly dinaric: the Dante Alighieri society in Italy is a freemasonic society for wich we can assume that his conventional representation might have taken a more semitic bend for empathy reasons.
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We do not actually know how Dante looked like.

There are conventional representations, many from the nineteenth century, who depict him as strongly dinaric: the Dante Alighieri society in Italy is a freemasonic society for wich we can assume that his conventional representation might have taken a more semitic bend for empathy reasons.
Knowing how perverse free-masons are makes it highly believable.
Still, aren't Jewish noses prominent?
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Dante according to Giotto, a famous painter and friend of Dante

Giotto Painting the Portrait of Dante (unfinished sketch)

What do you think Dante was? Med+Dinarid?

Here we have Dante according to Andrea del Castagno, about 100 years after his death


Especially Giotto's Dante makes me think a bit of a soccer player from Tuscany, Juventus's defender and Italian International Giorgio Chiellini
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Dante according to Giotto, a famous painter and friend of Dante

Giotto Painting the Portrait of Dante (unfinished sketch)

What do you think Dante was? Med+Dinarid?

Here we have Dante according to Andrea del Castagno, about 100 years after his death

Pontid + Dinarid.
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Pontid + Dinarid.
have you checked Giotto's as well?
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have you checked Giotto's as well?
Yes.
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Yes.
in giotto's painting he seems... you know, greek or something...
or maybe a bit like quentin tarantino


by the way, instead of posting some new "what's this chin" thread what's up with tarantino's chin? where do such chins come from?
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in giotto's painting he seems... you know, greek or something...
Would fit in well with a Pontid + Dinarid classification then.


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or maybe a bit like quentin tarantino


by the way, instead of posting some new "what's this chin" thread what's up with tarantino's chin? where do such chins come from?
Just looks like an exaggeratedly strong version of a Mediterranid chin.
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Dinarid chin and nose.
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in giotto's painting he seems... you know, greek or something...
or maybe a bit like quentin tarantino


by the way, instead of posting some new "what's this chin" thread what's up with tarantino's chin? where do such chins come from?
Not sure how much it influenced his looks but apparently he is part Cherokee:
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Tarantino was born in Knoxville, Tennessee, the son of Connie Zastoupil (née McHugh), a health care executive and nurse, and Tony Tarantino, an actor and amateur musician born in Queens, New York.[2] Tarantino's father is part Italian and his mother is of Irish and Cherokee Native American ancestry.[3][4][5]
Quentin Tarantino - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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