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Ignorance is sin. 2 16.67%
Ignorance comes from vice or lack of virtue. 4 33.33%
Knowledge is a treasure. 6 50.00%
Knowledge is a gift from God. 3 25.00%
Knowledge provides insight into the nature of God. 3 25.00%
The road to truth is reason. 4 33.33%
There is an answer to everything. 1 8.33%
It bothers me that I don't know everything. 2 16.67%
God moves in mysterious ways. 3 25.00%
No man or woman can explore God's ways. 3 25.00%
It is better to admit to not knowing, than to be full of assumptions. 4 33.33%
Some things are good to know, of others it is good to be unknowing. 4 33.33%
I'm not bothered by what I don't know. 1 8.33%
Ignorance is bliss. 1 8.33%
Ignorance is innocence. 2 16.67%
If God wants me to know something, he'll let me know. 2 16.67%
Ignorance is a gift from God. 0 0%
Knowledge comes from vice, lack of virtue or lack of character. 0 0%
Knowledge is a burden. 3 25.00%
Knowledge is sin. 0 0%
The road to truth is faith. 4 33.33%
Submission provides insight into the nature of God. 0 0%
Truth is absolute, but only God knows it. 2 16.67%
Truth is at best tentative, therefore human knowledge is never absolute. 5 41.67%
It's better to assume than to be clueless. 2 16.67%
The road to truth is sensual perception. 1 8.33%
Truth can be captured in dialectics. 2 16.67%
Only in hindsight do we see the truth, it comes forth in time, as history. 1 8.33%
Truth and falseity are human categories. 2 16.67%
There is no truth. 1 8.33%
I am an atheist. 0 0%
I am an agnostic. 6 50.00%
I believe in God. 4 33.33%
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Question speaks for itself. Poll is made public, in order to aid discussion. And by the way, this is me at my most laid-back.
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Ignorance is lack of knowledge, and possibly also deliberately ignoring something due to arrogance.
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The road to truth is faith.

This is with what I agree the most.
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Ignorance in spite of opportunity to discover ought to be a crime.
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I haven't voted yet but I will add this one: "Ignorance is not the inability to learn but the refusal to do so"
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Ignorance in spite of opportunity to discover ought to be a crime.
Why? Is it your opinion that everyone should know as much as possible? It is my opinion that the masses arent better off with more knowledge. We arent happier just because we "know" the Earth is round and not flat, and that the moon isnt made of cheese.
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Ignorance in spite of opportunity to discover ought to be a crime.
All human beings are guilty of that "crime".
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Ignorance is lack of knowledge, and possibly also deliberately ignoring something due to arrogance.
Do you think that people choose to be ignorant? I think I would consider that as hiding, deceiving and lying. Or maybe you are getting at another meaning of ignore here.

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I haven't voted yet but I will add this one: "Ignorance is not the inability to learn but the refusal to do so"
Ignorance would then be a kind of laziness, such as cognitive lazyness? Or something otherwise motivated, for example by stubbornness?
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Do you think that people choose to be ignorant? I think I would consider that as hiding, deceiving and lying. Or maybe you are getting at another meaning of ignore here.
I am more getting at the meaning at for example, a narcissist could be ignorant of what anyone would have to say about his opinions, out of arrogance and a self-view of superiority.

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Knowledge is a felix culpa, to take Saint Augustine of Hippo's words. So ignorance has to be the contrary, a sort of "unfortunate right".
It seems that many peoples are (ab)using this "right".
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I am more getting at the meaning at for example, a narcissist could be ignorant of what anyone would had to say about his opinions, out of arrogance and a self-view of superiority.
Well OK, but it isn't really ignorance as in not knowing or living by a lie, but only something like being full of oneself. I say "only" because I think it is very much a matter of interpretation. For example, when Teddy Lucic was given the red card in the World Cup of football in 2006, the Italian referee Daniele de Rossi smiled as Lucic approached him with a complaint. The red card was fully warranted in my opinion, and as far as I'm concerned the referee was only doing his job in an impeccable manner. That he smiles when a player is complaining about an impeccable decision is not really relevant, and it doesn't even have to mean that the referee is full of himself, that he is a narcissist or anything like that.
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Knowledge is a felix culpa, to take Saint Augustine of Hippo's words. So ignorance has to be the contrary, a sort of "unfortunate right".
It seems that many peoples are (ab)using this "right".
But isn't it plausible that Saint Augustine didn't really consider the step from knowledge to ignorance possible or even desirable?
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