Survivalism

[Freebooter]

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In your opinion, how important is it to have the skills required for basic wilderness survival (i.e. building a shelter, finding sources of food and water, making a fire, etc.)?

I've always been a sucker for conspiracy theories and one of the constant themes seems to be the idea that the luxuries we currently have are, sooner or later, going to be ripped from underneath our finger tips. The result being that we are forced into a much more primitive state which would require the ability to survive independent of food markets, running water, electricity, etc.

I keep a rucksack in my closet full of a variety of supplies that I can pretty much grab and go if need be. Basic things like firesteel, two knives, a compass, collapsible wash basin, a cloak I made out of a few meters of wool and a waterproof drop sheet, and so on and so forth.

So what's your take? Important? Unimportant? Am I insane?

[Lutiferre]

Definitely important. I dont think its insane, the need for basic survival skills and capability has been imposed on people that are used to luxury many times in history, and it can happen due to any revolting political event, or something as simple as an accident.

I'd rather be able to survive in the event of necessity, and be a bit over-paranoid, than be caught up in anarchy.

[Savorgnan]

Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

In your opinion, how important is it to have the skills required for basic wilderness survival (i.e. building a shelter, finding sources of food and water, making a fire, etc.)?

It can be usefull one day. And even if it doesn't, it is still good not to forgive some of our hunter-gatherers ancestors tricks.

Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

I've always been a sucker for conspiracy theories and one of the constant themes seems to be the idea that the luxuries we currently have are, sooner or later, going to be ripped from underneath our finger tips.

I've always felt the very same.

Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

I keep a rucksack in my closet full of a variety of supplies that I can pretty much grab and go if need be.

So what's your take? Important? Unimportant? Am I insane?

You're not insane, on the contrary, you seem to have a very alive instinct of conservation, and that's very important.

[Martín Zalacaín]

Maybe the ones who are insane are those who rely in our respective governments.

Perhaps it's time to publicize one of my less succesful threads. The Olduvai theory and the chances of a societal collapse.

[Menydh]

One day Lebanon was known as the Switzerland of Western Asia, and its capitaly city Beirut as the Paris of the Middle East. The numbers of Maronites decreased under Turkish Ottoman rule, while that of Muslims increased. Later, the number of Muslims saw an increase through the Palestinian refugees. The next day it was all a religious civil war and daily life was a matter of survival.

[M.R.]

Yes it's important surely. You never know when you'll need it.

[Sergius]

I have been training Urban Survivalism for years now. While I am a rookie, and a noob if you will, I believe I will know how to spot and subsequently avoid not only the obvious Urban killers such as hip stores, exclusive cafés and rich idiots, but also the subtle dangers lurking in the shade of the billboards, be it eloquent students, suffering artists or 'idealists' of any political conviction. I pass by it like a fist through a reasonable argument against breaking my nose; completely untouched.

[Freebooter]

I guess the next logical thing would be to ask (to those of you who consider it important) if you have an actual plan when or if it does hit the fan? Do you know where you'll be going? Who you plan to take? Things of that nature.

I'd like to think I'm relatively prepared for the worst of conditions, but I haven't put a great deal of thought into the finer details. One thing I've decided on is that I have no intention of staying in the urban areas. I predict nothing short of chaos, so the further away from large populations the better.

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

I guess the next logical thing would be to ask (to those of you who consider it important) if you have an actual plan when or if it does hit the fan? Do you know where you'll be going? Who you plan to take? Things of that nature.

I'd like to think I'm relatively prepared for the worst of conditions, but I haven't put a great deal of thought into the finer details. One thing I've decided on is that I have no intention of staying in the urban areas. I predict nothing short of chaos, so the further away from large populations the better.

I've had these thoughts of taking the bridge to Sweden and sheltering in some forest in Northern Sweden, but that is more of comic than practical value to me. I dont have a concrete plan.

[Freebooter]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

I've had these thoughts of taking the bridge to Sweden and sheltering in some forest in Northern Sweden, but that is more of comic than practical value to me. I dont have a concrete plan.

Why do you see that as impractical?

[Susi]

I'd probably go to my mum or dad's house which is around 70-80km from here. I'd be afraid to stay alone here in the city. I'd want to be in the country. of course at the moment i don't have any supplies stockpiled really... ,-, damn my studenty poverty ^^

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

Why do you see that as impractical?

Oh, not directly impractical. Just that I havnt prepared any concrete/practical plan. I wouldnt know exactly where to go, and I know of no specific location to shelter, and I dont even have i.e. a tent.

Originally Posted by Susi

I'd probably go to my mum or dad's house which is around 70-80km from here. I'd be afraid to stay alone here in the city. I'd want to be in the country. of course at the moment i don't have any supplies stockpiled really... ,-, damn my studenty poverty ^^

Yeah, I live in the city too, and if society collapsed, the muslims would rampage everything more than they already have with the recent riots. While I want to defend myself, it would be foolish to stay in the city and risk losing everything of practical value, and even means of escaping the area.

[M.R.]

For everyone interested in survival and survival skills I recomend documentary series Extreme Survival by Ray Mears (download RAY MEARS COLLECTION torrent, it's around 17GB of survival lessons). I enjoyed every single episode and learned a lot of useful stuff which can help me one day, or even if it doesn't, what's important is that I had a lot of fun watching it. It's also interesting to see so-called "primitive" people and how they survive in nature. Compare that to so-called "civilized" 'West' and some degenerates who can't survive with their playstation or pizza delivery service.

Here's 2 short videos from 2 episodes, if you like it don't think twice and just download all seasons.

YouTube - Ray Mears Country Tracks - Fire By Friction

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI3wHcF-IQI[/media]

[Freebooter]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

Oh, not directly impractical. Just that I havnt prepared any concrete/practical plan. I wouldnt know exactly where to go, and I know of no specific location to shelter, and I dont even have i.e. a tent.

Hmm... I'm not so sure about a tent as a reliable shelter. If anything, I would recommend looking into how to make a shelter from the natural resources in the environment you're in. I've never really trusted tents, unless you have no other option, of course. Maybe it's just me.

M.R., I really like Ray Mears. His television programs as well as Les Stroud's are the only two I would consider as holding legitimate educational value. It's a shame people take Bear Grylls' show as anything beyond entertainment. I suppose one day they'll find out the hard way that draining and consuming the liquid from elephant poo or climbing down waterfalls isn't the best way to go about things in the wilderness...

PS - thanks for the link.

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

Hmm... I'm not so sure about a tent as a reliable shelter. If anything, I would recommend looking into how to make a shelter from the natural resources in the environment you're in. I've never really trusted tents, unless you have no other option, of course. Maybe it's just me.

No, you're right. A tent is indeed not a reliable shelter. Its only practical benefit is its mobility. I wouldnt know how to make a shelter from natural resources, but setting up a tent is manageable

So yeah, its on the no-other-options basis. Another option would be to hide out in one of the hundreds of Nazi-bunkers on the Jutish Atlantic coast, and seal it. Some areas of Jutland are very undeveloped/unpopulated, so that would be a quick and easy way to make a shelter. But the remoter, the better, in my opinion, if we're talking some kind of total war/anarchy state of affairs. Get away from civilization. So the northern Swedish forests still seem attractive