How often do you get pissed off with the modern world?

[Constantinus]

I voted for several times per week. It's no use to rage at the world 24/7, but sometimes I can't help myself.


@ étoile: of course we are never happy, if mankind would be happy with how things are, do you think we'd have created such advanced sciences and progress? Apart from how sucky the world is today, it is advanced. If mankind were intrinsically happy, we'd still be cavemen who never bothered to invent fire because raw meat tastes good too.

[Arjuna Durden]

Originally Posted by Bulair

The modern world is fine with me, I like it, but it's the people that piss me off the most.They are either too stupid, or too selfish, always thinking they are superior to someone or something, not realising that they are being controled by dumbass pop-up banners and TV commercials with Horst Fuchs.People are the worst

Bulair: Indeed an excellent point. IMO people are becoming more and more dehumanized every day, and also more stupid: last year I saw the campaign 'don't laeve your dog in a closed car under the sun' -this year the capaign is 'don't leave your baby in a closed car under the sun' Well, people are too busy wanting money (or survival) and evasion (drugs, entertainment), so nobody cares for anything but getting the payroll and spending it quickly.

Originally Posted by Ingwaz

Oh, it's a daily occurence for me for sure.

The frequency of this feeling though can vary from day to day. For example, if I am on a 10 mile ski tour through the woods and hills of my home region, the modern world is far, far away and I am at peace in my wild surrounds. However, the next day, I may be at my desk working and listening to the news on the radio--and well, perhaps you can imagine my thoughts when I hear of the goings-on here and abroad....

Ingwaz: True! I've got this feeling when I return from excursions in the mountains, which are perfect places to avoid most of the modern world. In this moment I live half barricaded by an ocean and a desert (also in a human, nietzschean sense). The longer the time I spend driving along more populated and multiracial areas, the more pissed I get with modernity.

Originally Posted by Graeme

The modern world is not bad. I can be in Rome from Sydney in less than a day. I can be as clean as I want, eat what I want and when I want. I should have a long life with few diseases to worry about. I have been to university twice for no cost to me. I can still escape to go snow boarding in the Australian Alps or canoeing on the Thomson river near Walhalla in my home State in total bush country. So I think the modern world is all right.

Graeme: Yes, yes, but when the price for comfort and conveniences are loss of self-sufficiency, dehumanization, homogeneization, capitalism, loss of freedom and identity, multiracialism and thousands etceteras more I really feel primitivist temptations. (I recommend you watch a movie called "The village", if you haven't, and then tell me if TV, iPods, Notepads and mass tourism can make you as happy, healthy and human as people look in the movie -monsters aside)

[Pandur]

Originally Posted by Bulair

They are either too stupid, or too selfish, always thinking they are superior to someone or something, not realising that they are being controled by dumbass pop-up banners and TV commercials with Horst Fuchs.People are the worst

When I noticed my own girlfriend watching a Dutch-invented reality show designed for Anna Frank fans on the ex-third channel of Croatian television (now owned by RTL). I realized the Islamic invasion is not so serious pest as it seemed - compared to the faggotry and whiggerism of (modern) liberal protestantism.

[Ebusitanus]

Most of the time, several times a day and every time I see something which makes me long for an era where one could go down the street without bumping into a negro, a gypsy or any other assorted mongrel.

Amen to that

[Menydh]

For me it is several times a day too. There are things that make me very unhappy and, since I don't have a 'calmed' nature, they make me very angry too. That's quite striking for the people who know me since I was a baby, since from the day that I was born to my teenage-hood it is nearly impossible to see a picture where I am not displaying a wide smile of plenty happiness.

I can't even visit places like the village where I used to spend the summers of my childhood. Seeing the destruction delivered by speculation on the coast with all those horrible and unpersonal buildings, the degradation of those once idillic landscapes, ... makes me want to cry and grow in me a sense of powerlessness that I hate.

Seeing how people have lost their manners, how they no longer open the door before a lady or an elder person, or how they not walk near the outside of the pavement to give way to elder persons. That angers me.

Looking at youngsters dressing like retards, with a baseball cap and a stupid tshirt with some wanna-be-funny big banner on it, and with their trousers god knows of which clownish fashion. There is no sense of aesthetics anymore, no sense of ridicule.

It is the americanisation of the world, the triumph of the slobs.

Speaking of which, seeing that a new American junk-food slum has opened next to a monument or historical building, breaking the harmony and offering anti-cultural rubbish food.. I would burn it down to ashes.

And then reading the paper in the mornings and knowing about the next retarded action or declaration from a politician or the government. That helps to start the day in a bad mood.

As for seeing all those Moors, Indians, Negroes and what-not and the degradation that they are causing to the neighbourhoods and to society in general, I don't know if it is the simple view of them or hearing an idiot saying that "they have to go somewhere" that makes me more angry.


Outside all of that and quite a few more things, I can assure you all that I am usually a jolly person.

[Perun]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Looking at youngsters dressing like retards, with a baseball cap and a stupid tshirt with some wanna-be-funny big banner on it, and with their trousers god knows of which clownish fashion. There is no sense of aesthetics anymore, no sense of ridicule.

Oh yes, if there is one thing that pisses me off more than anything else about the modern world, it is youngsters. Quite ironic since I just turned 21, but yes I cannot stand young people today(and I never have been able to). Their shitty fashions, their immature attitudes towards everything, lack of manners, god awful music(I cant count how many times I got a typical "Ewwwww you listen to Mozart?" from these stupid whiggers). I have a saying; "Whenever I think human stupidity cannot reach a new low, I can always depend on American teenagers to prove me wrong". Then they like to shove into everybody's face that they're "the future", and whats so damn scary is that they're right! I also love the bullshit image they protray of themselves, how they're the most "enlightened", "tolerant"(more like indifferent), "greatest generation" of all time. Yeah whatever assholes, you're probably the worst generation ever!

[Nerthus]

If you're 21 and fed up with youngsters, then what about me, being 19... The generation of teens nowadays is extremely decadent and I don't wish to identify with it. I've also noticed studying/reading is considered to be 'lame'. Anyone who shows the slightest interest in studying is 'nerdy'. So what if people will say "ewww you listen to Mozart?" I couldn't give a rat's ass about what others think of me. If they don't like what I do, they can just ignore it. They themselves will suffer the consequences for being uncultured and uneducated sooner or later. Most concern themselves with popularity trends, parties and getting laid instead of actually doing something useful. Once they are out of university though and look for a job, nobody will ask them how many girls they slept with or if they were elected prom queen, but what their skills are and where they received their education.

[Bulair]

Originally Posted by Arjuna Durden

Bulair: Indeed an excellent point. IMO people are becoming more and more dehumanized every day, and also more stupid: last year I saw the campaign 'don't laeve your dog in a closed car under the sun' -this year the capaign is 'don't leave your baby in a closed car under the sun' Well, people are too busy wanting money (or survival) and evasion (drugs, entertainment), so nobody cares for anything but getting the payroll and spending it quickly.

The majority of people have always been uneducated, stupid etc., but nowadays big companies are turning this unprogressive mass into a target audience and the retarded commercials, movies, TV shows are everywhere.You can't just ignore them, even if you don't watch TV, don't read the papers and don't use the internet.

[Perun]

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

If you're 21 and fed up with youngsters, then what about me, being 19

Are you really that in doubt of my opinion of you? I dont literally hate all young people, Im making a general observation.

... The generation of teens nowadays is extremely decadent and I don't wish to identify with it.

Same here.

So what if people will say "ewww you listen to Mozart?" I couldn't give a rat's ass about what others think of me.

I dont believe I ever stated that I actually cared what they said about my musical tastes. If they cant tell good quality music from obvious crap, well thats their problem not mine.

But anyhow, you made an interesting observation but I think you may have missed my point. Im ranting about how pathetic todays youngsters have become(and remember I live in the country where much of this BS originates). And whats even more pathetic is how many adults in America actually try to emulate them or try to stay "hip" or "cool" in the eyes of young people. What more can I say about that.

[Nerthus]

Originally Posted by Perun

Are you really that in doubt of my opinion of you? I dont literally hate all young people, Im making a general observation.

What I meant was that if you at 21 don't like to associate with young people, then I also don't wish that, while being even younger - 19.

I dont believe I ever stated that I actually cared what they said about my musical tastes.[...]But anyhow, you made an interesting observation but I think you may have missed my point.

Where did I say you actually stated that? I was giving my own opinion which didn't necessarily have anything to do with your own

[Perun]

Sorry I misunderstood your meaning. My mistake!

[Strengthandhonour]

haha funny for this to be brought up, I was thinking of making this thread.
But anyways, Yeah just about everyday. Whenever I see something that makes me go "HAh...if it was 100 years ago...let's see how those 2 would look right now"
the modern world fills me with rage and anger

[etoile noir]

Originally Posted by CONSTANTINUS

I voted for several times per week. It's no use to rage at the world 24/7, but sometimes I can't help myself.


@ étoile: of course we are never happy, if mankind would be happy with how things are, do you think we'd have created such advanced sciences and progress? Apart from how sucky the world is today, it is advanced. If mankind were intrinsically happy, we'd still be cavemen who never bothered to invent fire because raw meat tastes good too.

so basically you're agreeing with me - well if you had quoted my post in it's entirety! if i remember well i said something along the lines of - the older generation say that we're lucky because we have mod cons - which effectively are results of scientific progress.

then again how many times have we thought that the grass is greener on the other side? then we get to the other side and find it's not that much greener after all?

i think it's all a matter of perspective. most of you are much younger than i, in fact i'm probably the mama of this forum! eventually you'll learn that life is much easier if you look at the bottle and see it as half full rather than half empty.

i'm not saying "rest on your laurels" or "go with the flow". no such thing! if that was my attitude, then i wouldn't be here would i? i would probably be knitting scarves or some such thing ...... or partying ye right!

try to do away with negative feelings. they really don't serve you any purpose whatsoever. ultimately it's much better to be proactive, and to be proactive one must first be optimistic. otherwise all is lost.

are any of you ready to accept defeat? I'm not!

[psycho_pixie]

@Perun: you're acting exactly like the "youngsters" you look down upon. so they say they don't like mozart, i doubt you ever hesitate to tell them what you think of their taste in music, and while i don't like rap and think it's sh!t, music is a matter of personal taste and just because what you listen to is older, it doesn't make it good by definition. there's not wrong or right in this situation, so you really should stop being so condescending to "youngsters". as you yourself recognize, they're the future, and unless you are planning to die soon, you'll have to live with them for the rest of your long life.

@Bayerisches Mädchen: you should read "le petit prince". for all your "they'll suffer the consequences", you don't come across as satisfied with who you are - just plain bitter. i know plenty of people who read, are cultured, yet have time to get laid and go to all the cool parties, there's more to life than waiting for tomorrow. hate to say it, but live a little...

sorry for the outburst of "life wisdom" but while there's plenty wrong with my generation, we "the youngsters" are not all bad and surely don't deserve all the bad karma the "old and wise" are giving off here.

today's society is far from perfect, esp. in the social aspect of things, but there's no going back and frankly, i wouldn't want to give up all the tangible scientific advances for some fantasy of a utopia that never existed in the first place. but even if you think it did, it was surely doomed from the start, or we wouldn't be where we're now - perfection doesn't evolve into sh!t.

[Perun]

Originally Posted by psycho_pixie

music is a matter of personal taste and just because what you listen to is older, it doesn't make it good by definition.

Are you seriously suggesting that rap music is on the same level as Mozart?

there's not wrong or right in this situation, so you really should stop being so condescending to "youngsters".

Give me one good reason why I shouldnt be condescending to "youngsters" and maybe I'll consider it.

as you yourself recognize, they're the future, and unless you are planning to die soon, you'll have to live with them for the rest of your long life.

So what you're saying is that since they're the future(and I have to live with them), I should just tolerate and ultimately accept their nonsense?

@Bayerisches Mädchen: you should read "le petit prince". for all your "they'll suffer the consequences", you don't come across as satisfied with who you are - just plain bitter. i know plenty of people who read, are cultured, yet have time to get laid and go to all the cool parties, there's more to life than waiting for tomorrow. hate to say it, but live a little...

You seem truely bent on provocating as many people as possible. Do you even know Bayerisches that well to say shes "bitter" and needs to "live a little"?

today's society is far from perfect, esp. in the social aspect of things, but there's no going back and frankly, i wouldn't want to give up all the tangible scientific advances for some fantasy of a utopia that never existed in the first place.

Nice strawman. I dont believe anybody here ever advocated "turning back the clock"(although Chesterton did have an interesting argument involving that) but getting society "back on track". I myself stated earlier in this thread:

Although Im not altogether nostalgic for the past, but rather in favor of a creative rediscovery of our lost heritage. So there are several terms for this kind of attitude: mainly Neo-Traditionalism and/or Reactionary Modernism.

Did you by some chance miss this statement?

but even if you think it did, it was surely doomed from the start, or we wouldn't be where we're now - perfection doesn't evolve into sh!t.

It seems you're suffering from a condition of "chronological snobbery" where basically everything in the past was shit and everything good is now.