Dacians

[Tarabos]

Originally Posted by Monolith

Interesting. Have any source for this?

antic sources which to say word by word this? noo!
the sources are many, but could be interpreted in different ways. i give you some miscellaneous:
Galerius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Regalianus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Licinius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Commodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We are the Valachs!

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Tarabos

antic sources which to say word by word this? noo!

Of course not. I was asking for literature. I always thought that (Romanian) Vlachs were a mix of Latin-speaking (minority) and Dacian (majority) ethnic substrata.

[Tarabos]

Originally Posted by Monolith

Of course not. I was asking for literature. I always thought that (Romanian) Vlachs were a mix of Latin-speaking (minority) and Dacian (majority) ethnic substrata.

hard to say! the latin "addictions" were performed along 400 years. even if each addiction was not larger than 5%, who knows how many addictions were?

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Tarabos

hard to say! the latin "addictions" were performed along 400 years. even if each addiction was not larger than 5%, who knows how many addictions were?

Indeed, but you've said it yourself that mountain areas which the Dacians inhabited were overpopulated, so it seems more plausible that their overall population size was greater than one of the Latin speaking newcomers. Wouldn't that make them more like romanized Dacians instead of dacianized Latins?

[Tarabos]

Originally Posted by Monolith

Indeed, but you've said it yourself that mountain areas which the Dacians inhabited were overpopulated, so it seems more plausible that their overall population size was greater than one of the Latin speaking newcomers. Wouldn't that make them more like romanized Dacians instead of dacianized Latins?

I'm shure, at the begining they were. Maybe they still are today. But, except the language, the vlachs inherited the dacian culture. So, doesn't matter how blood of dacians or latins they have, they have a dacian culture. if you'd marrien with a chineese, and yo'd grow up the children between your peoples, your children will have the same nationality like you. why i have doubts? because many dacians, also, adopted different cultures: gothic, slavic,...their followers are not dacians anymore. to be more precisely, my oppinion is that vlachs are dacians in culture, but not neccesarely in blood(not neccesarely over 50%, for example). in my oppinion, is not so easy to change an language - this will be posible only by means of recurent intrusions of other language speakers. if the intruders are more than 50%, then they'll assimilate the former population. but if the intruders come in small waves in 5 centuries, they could change the language, but they will be assimilated every time by the former population. The mixture after the first 2 centuries will behave almost the same like the beginners.

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Tarabos

So, doesn't matter how blood of dacians or latins they have, they have a dacian culture.

Agreed. It's sufficient to say that they are a blend of both ethnic substrata.

if you'd marrien with a chineese, and yo'd grow up the children between your peoples, your children will have the same nationality like you.

Perhaps nationality meaning the citizenship, but nationality in the ethnic sense? Most certainly not.

because many dacians, also, adopted different cultures: gothic, slavic...

Indeed. The Romanian language was a Romance-Slavic hybrid up until the 18th century, which would prove the existance of past Slavic migrations/invasions into the Romance speaking zone.

[Tarabos]

Originally Posted by Monolith

Perhaps nationality meaning the citizenship, but nationality in the ethnic sense? Most certainly not.

oh, yes! consider he had broken any conection with China!

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Tarabos

oh, yes! consider he had broken any conection with China!

One connection can never be broken and that one is called blood.

[Tarabos]

yes! and in the same nation you can have persons with diferent type of blood.

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Tarabos

yes! and in the same nation you can have persons with diferent type of blood.

Naturally, but they are genetically much closer to each others than to the people of some ethnicity distant to them.

Interesting links:
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/.../overview.html
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/...hic/atlas.html

[Tarabos]

thanks, pall! actualy genetics is a new-born and still have nothing in common with history. i heard they changed a picture to a simply e-mail from a person, who said: "you wrong, this kind of people is not in my country..."
of course, the example with the chinesse was a plastic one...