Do you agree that Ancient ''Greece'' collapsed ?

[Menydh]

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Originally Posted by Sifjar

Yes but you're the one corrected when I mention ''Hellenic'' to Hellenistic.

I had the impression that you confused these two notions.

[Sifjar]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

I'm not sure that you followed my argument.

There is/was no such thing as a "Greco-Roman" people. Graeco-Roman is a term used to identify the culture of the Classic period, for both Greece and Rome, especially since no little from the Roman culture was trasferred from Greek one.

In Italian, Greco means just Greek. In Latin, Greek is Graeco.

There is something that I should ask you at this point: are you trying to argue that modern Greeks and ancient Greeks might be different peoples?

I meant surely you're aware that ''Ancient Greek or Antique Greece'' collapsed ? What happen in the 88 BC ? Most of the Greeks were killed and were slaughtered and killed and also sold for slavery, etc. I wrote on my pervious post that the Greco- Romans and also the contemporary Greeks has the essences of the '' Greeks''. You must also aware that Alexander The Great killed most of the Greeks during his reign

Now the reason I argue they're Gerco- Roman is because the Roman been were highly concerted to fight against the Macedonian underestimating their power and of cos the Greeks are happy to welcome the Romans because under the pretext the Roman will liberate them from the Macedonian But the very little they Greek knew the Romans are there to conquer the Macedonian but latter the Roman didn't leave the Greece so this where the terms Greco -Romans used to describes the contemporary Greeks.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



For 60 years, Greece was competently administered by Rome, as a Senatorial province. Some cities, such as Athens and Sparta, even retained their self-governing status within their own territories. Then, in 88 BC, Mithridates VI Eupator, king of Pontus, began a campaign against Rome and won the support of many of the Greek city-states. Roman legions under Lucius Cornelius Sulla forced Mithridates out of Greece and crushed the rebellion, sacking Athens in 86 BC and Thebes the following year. Sulla's depredations on Greek works of art were notorious. Roman punishment of all the rebellious cities was heavy, and the campaigns fought on Greek soil left the heart of central Greece in ruins. The commerce of Achaea was no longer a rival to that of Rome. Athens did remain a respected intellectual center, though it was outshone by Alexandria.

[Sifjar]

Originally Posted by Plethon

I had the impression that you confused these two notions.

No because there are also other '' Hellenistic'' far East, on the pervious post that after the death of Alexander his kingdom was divided into three. And the Greco- Bactrian is founded after Alexander's death by his followers and the Indo Greek Kingdom

Its the Macedonians that actually spreads the Greeks culture however most of the people would just laugh out it without analyzing the complicity that involves here