Roman Frescoes & Mosaics

[Rusalka]

Great thread, pity I never saw it before. I had seen some of the Pompeii mosaics at the Smithsonian where they were on a temporary visit and I must say that they are even more breathtaking from up close. There are also some at the MET in the permanent collection.

And Manji, excellent job with the reconstruction. I am duly impressed.

[Ebusitanus]

Here some more:

Roman mosaic of a villa at Orbe, Switzerland. Bellow the days of the week.


Luna (Monday)


Mars (Tuesday)


Mercury (Wednesday)


Jupiter (Thursday)


Venus (Friday)


Saturn (Saturday)


Sol (Sunday)

[Ebusitanus]

Admetus and Alcestis


Landscape with Perseus and Andromeda: From the "Mythological Room" of the Imperial Villa at Boscotrecase, last decade of 1st century B.C


Seated woman playing a kithara: From Room H of the Villa of P. Fannius Synistor at Boscoreale, ca. 40–30 B.C


Standing woman holding a shield: From Room H of the Villa of P. Fannius Synistor at Boscoreale, ca. 40–30 B.C

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Ebusitanus

Ardesia, Cortona, Etruscan Fresco

I'm really appaled for this one ... I would said a pre-renacentist painting or a picture from the 15th-16th century flammand eschool (or maybe a pre-Dürer painting).....

[Cikku]

HERE you can see a picture of the Roman Villa Mosaic floor found at the entrance. The Roman Villa has just been restored and it is located in Rabat, Malta.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

I'm really appaled for this one ... I would said a pre-renacentist painting or a picture from the 15th-16th century flammand eschool (or maybe a pre-Dürer painting).....

Well observed. Besides the picture is signed by the author, not something that the Etruscans would do.

Also, the Etruscans depicted themselves as darker types.

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Well observed. Besides the picture is signed by the author, not something that the Etruscans would do.

Also, the Etruscans depicted themselves as darker types.

A-ha! yet, I had not noticed before the signature. Even romans and greeks even if they represented some fairer types, I scarcelly -even never- have seen so light typer. Excepting probably the Pella Mozaic but as someone claimed, color pallets in mosaics were usually limitated...
Bellow; the pella mosaic:



In the second mozaic, Dionisios seems to carry a golden crown over a dark mane

The mosaic below is obviously fictitius:In real life is quite hard sometimes to kill a lion with a shotgun (you must be really sure that you'll get him before shoting...) so hunting a lion naked and with just swords...

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Well observed. Besides the picture is signed by the author, not something that the Etruscans would do.

Also, the Etruscans depicted themselves as darker types.

A bust of Lucius Junius Brutus , the mythical founder of the Roman republic, made by 269 AC.It is one of the rare ancient busts that has preserved the colored incrustations of the eyes

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

Just notice how short are their penis. How come Romans and Greeks are always depicted with such a short penis? A thing that has always intrigued me... Is there a signification?

A bust of Lucius Junius Brutus , the mythical founder of the Roman republic, made by 269 AC.It is one of the rare ancient busts that has preserved the colored incrustations of the eyes

I knew it. He was black and had purple eyes.

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Duchemin

I knew it. He was black and had purple eyes.

You have deconated grâve, Duchemin ...Tchip! as usually say french antillians when they're upset....
The eyes look purple in this photo but I've seen the same bust a book displaying a picture of better resolution, na the eyes are actually brown. The rest is just the color of the material the bust was made of. Wherther was it painted or not, I have no idea. Many ancient bronzes has kept the eyes incrustation only...maybe they just contented to color the eyes in many cases (maybe becausethey considered the eyes as the most expressive part of the face)

About the penis...you are right, I wander what was that supposed to mean.
Maybe they considered politically incorrect to represent noble body parts in natural size...If I remerber well, Michelangello's David did not display a very big er....organ...did he? but in M.A's case easier to undertsand; as he lived in a catholic context and the statue represented a biblical figure (a sacred figure, hence)

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

You have deconated grâve, Duchemin ...Tchip! as usually say french antillians when they're upset....

Just kidding.

What's the material exactly? It doesn't look like a bronze, does it?

About the penis...you are right, I wander what was that supposed to mean.
Maybe they considered politically incorrect to represent noble body parts in natural size...

Or maybe the size has increased. Who knows?

If I remerber well, Michelangello's David did not display a very big er....organ...did he? but in M.A's case easier to undertsand; as he lived in a catholic context and the statue represented a biblical figure (a sacred figure, hence)

Yes, the David of Michelangello has a small genital. In fact, the penis is always represented smaller than the testis. It could also be that Michel. followed the ancient way of representing nudity. I doubt the ancient romans were prudes, though. As for the Catholic contexte, well it could be; however nudes in art are not inexistant in Christian times.

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Duchemin

Just kidding.

What's the material exactly? It doesn't look like a bronze, does it?



Or maybe the size has increased. Who knows?



Yes, the David of Michelangello has a small genital. In fact, the penis is always represented smaller than the testis. It could also be that Michel. followed the ancient way of representing nudity. I doubt the ancient romans were prudes, though. As for the Catholic contexte, well it could be; however nudes in art are not inexistant in Christian times.

I knew it was joking
Well, according to this site it is bronze
http://www.contracosta.cc.ca.us/Art/...tudyImages.htm

Catholic artists painted nudes, I knew it.... rennaissance art is plenty of them but painters may be received order of minimising the .... parties...

Yet a better nutrition might have contributed to increese their size, also

[Ebusitanus]

Greetings.

Yes, quite correct...it seems that work was a modern reporduction done using ancient methods. I went and looked for the original and it seems it all came from here:



http://www.accademia-etrusca.org/museo/index.html

[Señor Malo]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Further proof that the ancient Romans were Nordics. Priapus is unmistakably Phaellid.

Phaellids aren't supposed to be cro-magnonid?


Another proof in the same sense:

Frescoe from Pompei showing Patroclus separating Briseis from Achilles (in the front plan)
The ressemblance with Brad Pitt is just astounding

[Gil]

Well, art isn't the most acurate measure of Man; it is indeed the less acurate since it tends to depict an idealisation of Man (i'm talking about realistic art, not "abstract" crap).
I don't doubt for a second that there were blonde, blue-eyed romans of what we might call the "nordic" type and romans of "alpine" type, etc, what I doubt is the efforts that some undertake to try to prove that the roman civilization was "nordic" in itself and that it's greatness spawned from that: that is ridiculous and a blatant lie.

[Señor Malo]