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A US shooting rampage at the Virginia Tech university has left 33 people, including a suspected gunman, dead.
There were two incidents two hours apart, at a student dorm where two were killed and at an engineering building where 30 and the gunman died.
Officers said they were working to link the attacks and had a preliminary ID of the gunman but would not release it.
After the deadliest shooting rampage in US history, President George W Bush said the US was "shocked and saddened".
"Schools should be places of safety and sanctuary and learning. When that sanctuary is violated, the impact is felt in every American classroom and every American community," he said.
The state university in the town of Blacksburg is home to 26,000 students.

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The shooter shot the door twice at chest level, which resulted in two holes in the door, one of which hit the podium in the front of the classroom


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Shooter tried the door
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Virginia Tech police chief Wendell Flinchum said that emergency services had received a call at 0715 (1215 GMT) alerting them to a shooting at the dormitory - West Ambler Johnston Hall.
He said that two hours later there was a second report of shooting, this time at the engineering building, Norris Hall.
Asked why the campus was not closed after the first shooting, Mr Flinchum said that, at that stage, it was thought to be an isolated incident.
Police believed the first shooting may have been a "domestic incident" and that the gunman had left the campus.
'Many, many shots'
Eyewitnesses said some students jumped from classroom windows to escape the gunfire, which triggered panic on campus.
Some of those locked down inside the university buildings were using the internet to try to glean information about what was happening and many e-mailed the BBC News website.
Nikolas Macko was in a mathematics class in Norris Hall when he heard a series of loud bangs in the hallway which prompted a female student sitting near the door to move to close it.
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"She peeked out into the hallway, and saw the shooter, so she immediately closed the door. Three other students moved a table that was in front of the room - it seats approximately 40 students at capacity - and barricaded it against the door.
"A few seconds later, the shooter tried to open the door, but my classmates kept it well shut, as they held the table against it from floor level.
"The shooter shot the door twice at chest level, which resulted in two holes in the door, one of which hit the podium in the front of the class room and the other continued out the window. At this point he reloaded, shot the door again - this shot did not penetrate - and moved on to the other classrooms," Mr Macko said.
Virginia Tech student Erin Sheehan said she survived an attack on her German class and described the gunman.
She said: "He was, I would say, about a little bit under six feet tall, young looking, Asian, dressed sort of strangely, almost like a boy scout, very short-sleeved light, tan shirt and some sort of ammo vest with black over it."
Motive unclear
Mr Flinchum said it was unclear if the dead gunman was a student.
He could not confirm that the man was involved in the first attack.
Virginia Tech President Charles Steger said: "Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions."
He said the university was in the process of informing the next of kin of those killed and that counsellors were in place at the campus for student families.
The university urged students to call parents to let them know they were safe.
The deadliest mass US shooting prior to the Virginia attack was in Texas in 1991 when George Hennard killed 23 people and himself in a cafeteria.
The US also has a history of deadly school shootings.
In 1966, the day after killing his wife and mother, gunman Charles Whitman opened fire from a tower on the campus of the University of Texas killing 14 people and injuring 31 others.
In 1999 two teenagers at Columbine High School in Colorado killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before taking their own lives.

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That guy should have a good reason to kill those 32 teens for nothing...It's quite a rare case when asians go psycho like that.
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That guy should have a good reason to kill those 32 teens for nothing...It's quite a rare case when asians go psycho like that.
In Milan an entire chinese neighbourod revolted just for a fine to a woman and a tightening of traffic controls and of other administrative checks, which are btw usual for italians. I'm thinking that the myth of the meek asians will be eroding more and more as long as high numbers of them will enter our countries. Actually anti-mafia top attorney, Pietro Grasso, has just defined before a public audience the chinese communities as "criminogene", crime-generating environments.
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An injured student is carried out of Norris Hall at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia. Photograph: Alan Kim/AP



The gunman who killed 32 people at Virginia Tech in America's deadliest mass shooting was a student at the university, authorities said today.
Charles Steger, the Virginia Tech president, told CNN the killer was an Asian male and "one of our own students".
Erin Sheehan, one of four survivors from a German class at Norris hall, where most of the killings took place, had earlier told the Collegiate Times website: "He was just a normal looking kid, Asian, but he had on a Boy Scout type outfit.
"He wore a tan button-up vest, and this black vest, maybe it was for ammo or something."
As the authorities seek to identify the killer, Michael Sneed, a Chicago Sun-Times columnist, said officials were examining whether he was a Chinese national who had arrived in the US on a student visa last year.
A 25-year-old being investigated reportedly arrived in San Francisco in August 2006 on a visa issued in Shanghai, the paper said.
Confirmation that the killer was a Virginia Tech student came as the university prepared to hold a memorial service for the 32 victims of the massacre, with authorities struggling to explain their handling of yesterday's events. The university has already been strongly criticised over the two-hour gap between the first killings and an email alert telling students that a shooting had taken place and warning them to "be cautious".
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That guy should have a good reason to kill those 32 teens for nothing...It's quite a rare case when asians go psycho like that.
Oh please. Some of the stories I've heard about what people have done in Asia makes quite a lot of them look like psychos. In Serbia there was a case of a chinese man stabbing three people. Or how about the 13 year old in Japan who beheaded his friend. Or all the weird suicide pacts in Japan. Asians are crazy, just blacks and muslims and gypsies are far worse.
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Oh please. Some of the stories I've heard about what people have done in Asia makes quite a lot of them look like psychos. In Serbia there was a case of a chinese man stabbing three people. Or how about the 13 year old in Japan who beheaded his friend. Or all the weird suicide pacts in Japan. Asians are crazy, just blacks and muslims and gypsies are far worse.

Well, maybe, but in conversation they seem to be calm and rather shy, modest etc.
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Who here has seen the movie Hostel?
the idea for hostel was taken from a business in Thailand. People would go pay 10,000 dollars I believe and had the right to shoot someone.
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Who here has seen the movie Hostel?
the idea for hostel was taken from a business in Thailand. People would go pay 10,000 dollars I believe and had the right to shoot someone.
Yeah, I've heard about the other movie "Shocking asia" or smth. That was really insane...
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Sad, perhaps. But worthy material for international headlines? The reality is that I couldn't give a flying fart in high wind about Americans, as cruel and cold-hearted as that may sound.

I have been following a certain debate on Youtube over the past several months and this story came up in one of the American's videos (a man whose pseudonym use to be 'ProHateDebate' and who is a self-proclaimed 'American nationalist'); perhaps some of you guys would be interested in his 'solution' to this problem:

YouTube - TheAxter 33 dead in VA
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The korean had an pparent pro islamic writing penned in red in on his arm: ISMAIL AX, the axe of Ismail, the founder of the islamic faith and son of Ibrahim/Abraham. The axe according to the moslem legend, which is pivotal to moslem faith, was used to destroy the pagan idols of his town, leading to a miracle (his saving by allah from the ensuing burning of Ismail by enraged citizens). This is one of teh most probable explanations that are being given over teh net of the words ISMAIL AX. If only it was true, what news.
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Apparently, in between the two shootings, he mailed something to NBC News. It will be interesting to see what he has to say.
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Apparently, in between the two shootings, he mailed something to NBC News. It will be interesting to see what he has to say.
Probably usual whinig of depressed loser who blames his own faults on others.
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Are you implying that I am a potential schoolshooter?
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Are you implying that I am a potential schoolshooter?

No, you are potential Brian Molko clone.
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His "manifesto" sounds rather like some emo crap to me.
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