The Genealogy of Milesius and Scythians

[Miles hispaniae]

The Genealogy of Milesius


Adam, his son
Seth,his son
Enos, his son
Cainan, his son
Mahalaleel, his son
Jared, his son
Enoch, his son
Mathusalemh, his son
Lameeh, his son
Naei, his son
Japhett, his son
Magog, his son
Baath, his son
Fenius Farsaidh (Fenius Farsa), King of Scythia, his son
Gaedal Glas also known as "Gaodhal, Gathelus & Gayi", his son
Esru, his son
Sru ,leader of the emigration from Egypt to the Island of Creta, his son
Cine Scuit , He led the of Gaedil from the Island of Creta to the land of Scythia, his son
Beogamhan, King of Scythia, his son
Eogaman King of Scythia, his son
Tath, King of Scythia, his son
Adnoin, his son
Lamh finn , He led the Clanna Gaedil form the land of Scythia , to Gaethluighe " Gothia", his son
Eber Glun-finn, King of Gothia, his son
Adnamhon Fionn, King of Gothia, his son
Febric Glas ( Ebric), King of Gothia, his son
Ninuall ,King of Gothia, his son
Nuadha, King of Gothia, his son
Allodh ,King of Gothia, his son
Arcadh, King of Gothia, his son
Deag King of Gothia, his son
Brath King of Gothia (who left Gothia with a large band of his people and settled in Galicia, Spain), his son
Breoghan ,King of Galicia, Andalusia, Murcia, Castile, and Portugal, his son
Bile , King of Galicia, Andalusia, Murcia, Castile, and Portugal, his son
Galamh ( Milesius of Spain, Milidh & Miles Hispaniae) from this man are the origins of the Clanna Milidh and the Milesians Race. King of Galicia, Andalusia, Murcia, Castile, and Portugal.



Miles-itis: Soldier;Infantryman; Private; (fig) Army

Miletus -i: town on W.coast of Asia minor. Founder of the town of Miletus.


Miletus was first occupied in 1400 B.C. by Minoans from Crete, then Mycenaeans from the Peloponnese, then by refugees from Greece during the Dorian invasion. It prospered and grew wealthy from colonies on the Mediterranean, the Black Sea and even in Egypt. Miletus became the most important of thecities of Ionia, and was one of the first cities in the ancient world to mint coins.


Mil Espane or Miles Hispanie: Soldier of Spain.

The word Gaethluighe or Getae has been said to be Gothia from were many of the Milesian race descendants once were kings.

Gothia is a name given to various places where the Goths lived during their migrations.

Götaland, Original homeland of the Goths.

Dacia, during the fourth century, when it was settled by Goths it was called Gothia.

Dacia, ancient geography was the land of the Dacians. It was named by the ancient Hellenes (Greeks) "Getae". Dacia was a large district of South Eastern Europe, bounded on the north by the Carpathians, on the south by the Danube, on the west by the Tisia or Tisa, on the east by the Tyras or Nistru, now in eastern Moldova. It thus corresponds in the main to modern Romania and Moldova, as well as parts of Hungary, Bulgaria and Ukraine. The capital of Dacia was Sarmizegetusa. The inhabitants of this district are generally considered as belonging to the Thracian nations.

The Greeks first encountered the Getae by means of the colonies created on the Black Sea shore in 7th century B.C., like Istros (Histria), Callatis (Mangalia) and Tomi (Constanţa), and they used their name for the whole population to the north of the Danube. The Romans first encountered the Dacians, extending this name to cover all the other tribes on the Dacia province, roughly the present-day Romania. In 512 B.C. the Persians leaded by Darius reached the regions of the Danube during the expedition against the Scythians, came in the region from the North of the Black Sea. In 335 B.C. the Macedonians with Alexander the Great conquered Dobruja, but in 300 B.C. and 292 B.C.. the Macedonian general Lysimach was defeated by the Getas' king Dromichaites. an invasion in Transylvania by the Celts took place in 300 B.C.

The Uí Néill Dynasty (Irish for descendants of Niall ) were Irish and Scottish dynasties who claimed descent from Niall Noigiallach (Niall of the Nine Hostages), an historical or mythical High King of Ireland who died about 405. Irish monks took great liberties in creating genealogies too many ancient Irish Clans and adding their own religion into the mix. Making Adam the founder of the "Milesian" Race.

If this oral history that latter became a "myth". I believe that there must be some truth behind the myths and these ancient oral histories. The descendants of these men or invaders that arrived in Ireland or the British Isles known to be the Milesians must have had origins from ancient Dacia or somewhere near the Black Sea.



The head hunting Scythian influences on the Celts.

Each of them cuts off an enemy's head and takes it back home. He then skewers it on a long wooden stave and sets this up so that the head sticks up far above the house, often above the chimney. They maintain that the head is put there as guardian of the whole house. ... With the heads of their worst enemies they proceed as follows: once they have sawn off everything below the eyebrows, they carefully clean out the head. If the owner is poor he will merely stretch calf-leather round it and use it thus. But if he is rich, he will also line the inside with gold and use it as a drinking vessel... When guests arrive he will bring out these heads and say how they ...attacked him, and how he defeated them. - Herodotus


The Scythians are described to cut the heads off their slain foes.

The Scythian soldier drinks the blood of the first man he overthrows in battle. Whatever number he slays, he cuts off all their heads, and carries them to the king; since he is thus entitled to a share of the booty, whereto he forfeits all claim if he does not produce a head. In order to strip the skull of its covering, he makes a cut round the head above the ears, and, laying hold of the scalp, shakes the skull out; then with the rib of an ox he scrapes the scalp clean of flesh, and softening it by rubbing between the hands, uses it thenceforth as a napkin. The Scyth is proud of these scalps, and hangs them from his bridle-rein; the greater the number of such napkins that a man can show, the more highly is he esteemed among them. Many make themselves cloaks, like the capotes of our peasants, by sewing a quantity of these scalps together. Others flay the right arms of their dead enemies, and make of the skin, which stripped off with the nails hanging to it, a covering for their quivers. Now the skin of a man is thick and glossy, and would in whiteness surpass almost all other hides. Some even flay the entire body of their enemy, and stretching it upon a frame carry it about with them wherever they ride. Such are the Scythian customs with respect to scalps and skins. The skulls of their enemies, not indeed of all, but of those whom they most detest, they treat as follows. Having sawn off the portion below the eyebrows, and cleaned out the inside, they cover the outside with leather. When a man is poor, this is all that he does; but if he is rich, he also lines the inside with gold: in either case the skull is used as a drinking-cup. They do the same with the skulls of their own kith and kin if they have been at feud with them, and have vanquished them in the presence of the king. When strangers whom they deem of any account come to visit them, these skulls are handed round, and the host tells how that these were his relations who made war upon him, and how that he got the better of them; all this being looked upon as proof of bravery. Once a year the governor of each district, at a set place in his own province, mingles a bowl of wine, of which all Scythians have a right to drink by whom foes have been slain; while they who have slain no enemy are not allowed to taste of the bowl, but sit aloof in disgrace. No greater shame than this can happen to them. Such as have slain a very large number of foes, have two cups instead of one, and drink from both. - Herodotus

The Scythians, as I said, take some of this hemp-seed, and, creeping under the felt coverings, throw it upon the red-hot stones; immediately it smokes, and gives out such a vapour as no Grecian vapor-bath can exceed; the Scyths, delighted, shout for joy, and this vapor serves them instead of a water-bath; for they never by any chance wash their bodies with water. Their women make a mixture of cypress, cedar, and frankincense wood, which they pound into a paste upon a rough piece of stone, adding a little water to it. With this substance, which is of a thick consistency, they plaster their faces all over, and indeed their whole bodies. A sweet odor is thereby imparted to them, and when they take off the plaster on the day following, their skin is clean and glossy.
- Herodotus

When their enemies fall they cut off their heads and fasten them about the necks of their horses; and turning over to their attendants the arms of their opponents, all covered in blood, they carry them off as booty, singing a paean over them and striking up a song of victory, and these first-fruits of battle they fasten by nails upon their houses, just as men do, in certain kinds of hunting, with the heads of wild beasts they have mastered. The heads of their most distinguished enemies they embalm in cedar-oil and carefully preserve in a chest, and these they exhibit to strangers, gravely maintaining that in exchange for this head some one of their ancestors, or their father, or the man himself, refused the offer of a great sum of money. And some men among them, we are told, boast that they have not accepted an equal weight of gold for the head they show, displaying a barbarous sort of greatness of soul; for not to sell that which constitutes a witness and proof of one's valor is a noble thing, but to continue to fight against one of our own race, after he is dead, is to descend to the level of beasts. -Diodorus Siculus on the Celts

[Tarabos]

Originally Posted by Miles hispaniae

The Genealogy of Milesius


The descendants of these men or invaders that arrived in Ireland or the British Isles known to be the Milesians must have had origins from ancient Dacia.......

i have the same oppinion. the irish song: "the wolf from carpati"! the irish and scotish character and look. ...
i think king Arthur was dacian too - an former soldier of the roman Equites unity, founded by the dacian emperor Aureolus.
dacians could arrived there in many ways:
- like soldiers of dacian legions, brought by the emperors Hadrian, Marcus Aurelius,...Constantine.
- like highland settlers, brought by Trajan, Hadrian...
- like refugees from early vikings from Denmark...

[Monolith]

What if, what if? Too many assumptions and too few historical evidence. A thread that might be of interest: Where did European Men Come From?

[Menydh]

This thread should be in the Alternative History forum, at best.

[Tarabos]

sometimes, some ideeas could be evidences itself, even not enough, or accurate....

[Llywarch Hen]

Come on, people!

If history had gone a little different, and Christianity spread eastward, then we'd have genealogies linking 'Guderatius, founder of the Gujerati People' or 'Tibetus' etc. with Noah and Adam...

[Tarabos]

menydh, can you translate the latin verse? it sound interesting!

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Tarabos

menydh, can you translate the latin verse? it sound interesting!

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