Difference between Cromagnid and Alpinid

[Der]

Alpinids being the result of Alpinisation of different Cromagnoid forms, with the main form being close to modern Palaeatlantids and Berids rather in Western-Central Europe, for the basic Westalpinids. They became reduced, pyknomorphised, brachycephalised and more infantile. The degree can vary since the Alpinisation is rather a process.
Other Cromagnoid forms of the North f.e. became Alpinised too, mainly through both admixture of older (classic) Alpinid forms and certain selective pressures (low energy, nutritional deficits, social adaptation, sedentary farmer existence, plagues etc.).

F.e. Swiss examples:
Standard Alpinid:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8611/19jv.png


More progressive standard Alpinid (compare profile):

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8013/47tn1.png


Reduced Alpinoid variant which developed from a Nordoid-Cromagnoid base:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2672/581og.png


Extremely roundheaded Alpinid:

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4681/678jh.png


Very reduced-infantile Alpinid:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/594/510hb.png


Extreme Alpinid:

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4908/205ze.png


More robust Alpinid:

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1781/233eh.png


Alpinoid with significant Cromagnoid tendencies:

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6352/229uy.png


Part Alpinised Cromagnoid:

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7572/445yt.png


Part Alpinised Cromagoid:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7029/647de.png

[Strengthandhonour]

interesting that the second subject looks a lot like someone I know. A guy of Spanish and German blood.
whats up with all the weird hair dues anyways?

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Der

Reduced Alpinoid variant which developed from a Nordoid-Cromagnoid base:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2672/581og.png

That's much speculative in my opinion. A more logical explanation should be Alpinoid variant altered by Nordoid admixture.

[Agrippa]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

That's much speculative in my opinion. A more logical explanation should be Alpinoid variant altered by Nordoid admixture.

Thats another possibility, but if such variants occur in certain areas in large numbers and regionally accumulated, it makes sense to assume them being Alpinised this or that way, because crucial is: They show light pigmentation and morphological traits which are non-classical for Alpinids, but are on the other hand largely Alpinised by their basic traits, proportions and growth pattern. This one is Nordoid-Cromagnoid by pigmentation and facial traits, but by proportions and size Alpinoid, thats what I meant.

[ysebaert]

How old are these examples?

[Ostrogorski]

Yes, they look very young - late teenagers or early 20ies???

[heliumvola]

A friend was recently classified as this type but I cannot really see any major resemblances

[Germanicus]

Originally Posted by Menydh

That's much speculative in my opinion. A more logical explanation should be Alpinoid variant altered by Nordoid admixture.

My partner has assured me that this shaped head is the nearest to my own head shape.Although this is not an exact match.

[Menydh]

So you are not the fellow in your avatar?

[Germanicus]

Originally Posted by Menydh

So you are not the fellow in your avatar?

heh heh heh ...........of course not silly...

[Cromlech]

I want to speak about the origin of the west-alpinid race, that actually live in France and in other areas. Yes, they are descendents of cromañoids, but, what is the intermediate slabon? I believe that they are the old brachicephals populations of western Spain, paleoatlantids or berids. I dont know the real significance of the term paleoatlantid, but I imagine that it refers to this older soth-western european brachicephal populations.

I think that this older population were originated when the last glaciation finished. They evolved directly from Cro-magnons, and appeared in the Iberic peninsula or in NW Africa, I dont know it.They are related to the Capsian culture. They expanded in the Mesolithic times to the north, they crossed the Pirineos and they expanded and settled by France, the Alps and neighbour territories. Here, with the time, they evolved into the local varieties, and lived the "process of alpinisation", beacuse of the regional ambient charactheristics.

I think this brachicephals varieties can be called the "local western Europe inhabitants", due to the Cromagnons. Maybe they can be related to the "old language of Western Europe", that maybe can be related to the basque language. This brachicepals and cromagnon groups lived in different areas of western Europe before the arrived of the Mediterranean race by the south and the Nordic race by the north, that have the same morphological origin and comed from the east.

This is what I think. Please, correct me if I´m wrong.

[Germanicus]

Great post on a facinating subject..