[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Brigid

You're reading too much into it I think Mynydd. Colonists most likely coined this term to distinguish very foreign natives of the lands they colonised or visited from Europeans, who were more familiar to them, and relatively, they considered to be not so different from themselves. Most likely, distinguishing these natives from themselves to such a degree helped them resolve any feelings of bad conscience and perhaps gain public support from English citizens (or at least indifference, not opposition from the English public).

How the word was coined in first place is of marginal importance to the discussion. What matters here is how it has been interpreted at different times to suit the agenda of each moment. That is dishonest.

Agreed. "Mighty conquerer" would be a more apt description.

The English have nothing to be ashamed of... the strong over-taking the weak is the way of the world. Survival of the fittest. If the Anglo-Saxons have used this concept to their advantage... then all power to them (or, I should say "us" since I am an Anglo ).

The time to show who is fittest is now. If you take the trends of Anglo-Saxons leaving the country as immigrants from new and old take over the island, you will have to agree that they are not faring very well. If we are fair and go by your logics, we will have to say all power to the "Mighty Conquerors" (?). Of course you know that in this case the English are the conquered, not the conquerors.

Vae Victis!

But then, maybe the Anglo-Saxons are showing themselves in recent years to be really quite weak

Considering that this is the first time that the island sees an invasion (well, if we except 1066), I would say that it is not that they are showing themselves quite weak "in recent years", but that their weakness has been left exposed once their hideout is no longer a safe haven where to run and hide.