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Default Re: Against Arthur Kemp’s “March of the Titans: The History of the White Race”

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Naturally. That is where those sorts of sentiments spark from. I never disagreed with that. I just jumped to the conclusion without having to highlight that, because I assumed that you - and many on here - already knew or could figure this out for themselves. Did I assume too much or something?
It was a typo. I meant to write "things are many times not as simple as adding 1 + 1."

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I won't deny certain WN involvement in such works of Nordicism.
You are being very generous to WN, by saying "certain". Of course you are a WN. Your generosity there is understandable.

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It's nothing that I agree with and there are a great many White Nationalists that strongly stand against Nordicism; in my country and many others.
Yes, I remember that at some point the agenda of WN started to slightly move away from Nordicism, out of convenience. It was not difficult to realize, even for some WNs, that while WN was already in the marginal fringe, it could get much more marginal through Nordicism.

A similar pattern as with New Age Nazis on Skadi, who changed the name of Nordicism to Germanicism to make it sound more acceptable, and Nordic Supremacism to Nordic Preservationism.

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Well, that in itself is debatable. Some pretty groundbreaking work has been done lately that suggests a Caucasoid Native element having inhabited this continent before the Mongoloid migration occurred.
It is not debatable. There is a fusion. You won't see a Navajo calling himself a Navajo Mongoloid and another a Navajo Caucasoid, because there was a long process which finished on an ethnic genesis. Which is conditio sine qua non for nationhood.

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I saw a special on this not too long ago. I understand that's irrelevant to your point, but I thought it was interesting.
It is also old news. More recent news (still old) are the existance of the remains of a native substratum prior to the expansion of Mongoloid people, which is believed to be Australoid or similar to Australoid.

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Anyway, I would assume that people on this forum know that the United States is inhabited by a European majority
Though it's been dramatically falling to American standards, education in Europe gives us the advantage of such knowledge.

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(though that is likely debatable in this day and age). Especially when certain posters here have a fetish for bashing them.
It reflects at large the general feelings of Europeans, not only of Nationalists.

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Even more so if you take into account that North American Indians are an endangered species and the majority of those particular tribes are extinct.
Which is a tragedy.

As an ethnicist, I advocate for the preservation of ethnic diversity. I am concerned with the ethnic preservation of my nation, then of Europe. But also with the preservation of the ethnic natives of other regions of the world. That is what Nationalism is about.

Now, you might ask what then White Americans. I don't know. I'm a Nationalist, not a White Supremacist or a Raci[al]st.

There are undoubtedly ways around the problem. But as far as I'm concerned they do not lie in WN because, despite its name, it is in fact not related to Nationalism.

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Well, I don't go on VNN and I have occasionally visited Stormfront. I admit that there are indeed a lot of ignoramuses that frequently post on there. Though your assumption that they are all nothing more than a bunch of incestuous rednecks is far fetched and patently untrue in most instances.
I'm mostly unconcerned with their sexual habits, to be honest.

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There also are some intelligent individuals that post on there as well;
In the realm of the blind, they one-eyed is king.

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whose views on many issues do not differ significantly from your own.
Please, explain. I find that very hard to believe.

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If you don't believe me I suggest you see for yourself.
There is some entertainment value.

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It might increase membership on here.
We are actually not interested in the general audience of forums like Stormfront, Skadi or VNN, for various reasons. As a Nationalist forum, Stirpes strives for quality. As an European forum, it is Europeans and not Americans that we cater for.

You must understand that for Nationalism, due to its ethnicist approach, that we may all come from the same monkey means little in itself. Mind you, many of us here even refuse to believe, stubbornly, that all human beings descend from the monkeys.

The physical part of the individual is clearly and largely insufficient to define an individual's Identity without his spiritual part. Here, again, Nationalism differs greatly of WN, Nordicism, Liberalism, Socialism, and all other ideologies or constructs based on a materialistic approach to the individual.

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Though, if you take the same patronizing approach you seem to have with me, that might not work. If you are genuinely interested in turning people onto your beliefs then perhaps you would abstain from such.
I fail to understand why I should want to turn Americans to my beliefs.

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Of course not. That is why I said I would base it on a whim rather than any physical evidence. It's not too different from what you do when you imply that all White Nationalists fit the Jerry Springer Show stereotype most you Europeans believe they do.
It is empirical, which makes it not only different but greatly different. Admittedly, there are exceptions to the rule but those are most unlikely to be found in any of the afore mentioned forums, in WN or in Nordicism.

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Standards you would be vaguely familiar with, I'm sure. But essentially you're right. The same logic could also be applied to Europeans I'm sure. I seriously doubt Europe is inhabited by a collective group of prodigies.
The same logic is indeed applied to Europeans.

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Yeah I get it. A Spanish-American, who just so happens to live in Florida, has no right to take pride in both the history of his people or state correct?
I wouldn't know. The concept of state citizenship is largely alien to me. But it doesn't cease to amaze me how it strives to imitate the concept of nationhood.

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If it gets to the point where any actual percentages on such a thing would surface. But, as I previously mentioned, I personally find it far more of a British/Australian/South African phenomenon than an American one.
Ah.. the Anglosphere, yes.

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I don't see how when many of your attacks can encompass innocent bystanders that have nothing to do with what you are initially addressing.
Someone should have taught WNs in the first place that wars are not just about glorious warriors and heros, but that there are also casualties, some even innocent.

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I'm not following your logic here. Yes, it was a flag during the Spanish occupancy of this state, thus it is recognized as a legitimate symbol of its history.
That flag, as you display it in your avatar, is the flag of The Spains to which Florida or Alabama no longer pertains but they were occupied by a people alien to us. It is charged with a spiritual symbolism of a people, the Spanish. A spiritual symbolism to which the modern day occupiers of those lands are alien.

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Same difference. To most English speakers we would call such establishments colonies, unless of course, they were independent; which they weren't at the time.
There is a very big difference in fact.
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