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Originally Posted by Crvena zvezda

Overpopulation in many cases over exagerrated. The United States can support over a billion more people and Canada can support at least dozens of million more. In South America most populations are concentrated along the coast. Some regions of Africa and Asia can support more people, just not the desert regions. The only thing that is needed to decrease the effects of the rising population is better farming technology as farms are inefficient in almost all regions of the world. Australia can also support a lot more people.

The entire Earth cannot support 6 billion + people.

Maybe with more efficient technologies, maybe. But without stopping fossil fuel usage, it is impossible. There are too many of us for the Earth to support.

True. It should be for three children or more since the rate of replacement is 2.1 children

Yes.

I see your point. How about just giving them free land and subsidizing a part of the cost. I doubt people would want the government to finance their entire house since it would likely not be to their liking (government would want least amount of cost, hence it would be just basic housing and not in prime areas).

Yes, this is a good plan.

True. But when I talk about birth control I mean anything that is not naturally occuring and the pills, chemicals used in needled and patches all use synthetic chemicals.

They use hormones from the human body.

I have nothing against condoms since some researchers have said that they have existed since Roman times. If people want to have sex with out getting pregnant their are operations for that (mind you i believe they should be limited to people who've already had children) and their are certain plants/herbal remedies people can take that are naturally occuring (and I wouldn't ban them for they are synthetic) that can be used instead of some birth control methods (and none due what the morning after pill does).

Well you did say "contraceptives" which includes condoms.

I've never heard of these plants/herbal methods... a link to a reputable source, perhaps?

Point of conception - the point of fertilization.

This is what I figured.

I see the logic in that case and when the parent is physically or mentally unfit. But I am still against it, i don't see why the unborn child should be punished with death for something it did not do. I believe women who get raped and give birth should recieve larger incentives and subsidies because it is not usually their fault that they got pregnant.

Um, excuse me, but do you know how psychologically damaging it is for a woman to be raped? And then forced to have her rapist's child? She's probably commit suicide!

Not every lunatic should have children, there should be laws making it easier to take children away from unfit parents.

Most of the time, unfit parents make unfit children.

It could decrease std's because if the chance of getting pregnant is increased and abortions are illegal it means that people will be less promiscous and if they are less promiscous there will be fewer STD's.

Perhaps, but you cannot expect people to be less promiscuous.

In regards to quality, not quantity. Qualitt is not a trate that can be passed on but it is there surroundings. The great Maradona was not a quality person but he's childrren were. While pele (people say) was a quality person who had a large quantity of children and they all became horrible people.

It depends.

Obviously some exceptions to the rule will exist. So long as they didn't do something purposefully to their body to prevent them from having children.

I see.

Possibly 25. But i'd prefer 30, my inspiration for the age of 30 is the fact that the Ancient Athenians had a law that under which any man who was not married by the age of 30 would lose his rights to citizenship.

Basing laws for modern times entirely off of Classical society isn't a wise plan of action.

But I guess this is an okay law..

It should be a bachelor tax from the age of 25 and loss of citizenship if they are unmarried by the age of 30.

Tax increases maybe? If he gets married after 30, does he get citizenship back?

It's about to a certain month. most countries have laws allowing abortions about to a certain date. so it would be certain countries at certain times.

I know how abortions work. I was taught it in school as an option for when/if I become pregnant. :\

Yes. It's a dutch ship that goes harbours of shore just beyond international waters and then brings on aboard pregnant women and gives them abortions. It does this in countries where abortions are illegal or restrictive. It's operated by the Dutch NGO Women on Waves. Women on Waves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ugh! How stupid! And how unhygenic!

Banning condoms is just ludicrous. They've existed since the time of the romans. The only thing you could do to ban condoms is ban laytex and other petrochemical derivatives but it makes no sense since they could do what people allergice to laytex use.

Which is vinyl. My friend, he is allergic to latex, and he has to buy expensive vinyl condoms (I don't remember why he was telling me this). As I recall, vinyl is a petrochemical derivative also.

If they're really that desperate to not get pregnnat they could use naturally occuring plants/herbal remedies. Since it;s actually possible to test if hormones are natural or are the by product of something else (i.e. birth control).

What are your plants/herbal remedies? Why use these when there is a method that is proven to be effective? It's like taking one step backwards.

Again. i consider the point of conception to be the point the egg is fertilized.

With birth control like the patches, the pills, and the needles, I will restate again...

THERE IS NO POINT OF CONCEPTION.