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Default Re: Massive rally of Falange in Madrid

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Originally Posted by Mynydd View Post
Oh, oh..
That's a fallacy typical from the far left. Congratulations.

He did banish languages other than Castilian from anything official. He definitely did not encourage the learning of those languages. However, tell me one ruler in Spain who did so since 1700 (Philippe d'Anjou) or even earlier. In my opinion a big mistake was not accepting the collaboration of the then bourgeoise Catalan regionalist party, La Llliga of Cambó, and the acceptance of the formation of a Generalitat within the State, which might have set an example for the rest of Spain.

Fortunately the people who lived through those years are still alive to attest it. For example, my father.

The one time when other languages were prohibited was during the Directorio of General D. Miguel Primo de Rivera.

I urge you to quote the law by which Catalan, Basque and Galician were prohibited.
Sorry wrong use of vocabulary. I apologise for my mistake.
The point is that denying any sort of official use, and "He definitely did not encourage the learning of those languages." was bad enough if local languages couldn’t be taught in normal ordinary schools young generations would eventually forget the langue and this would end up with the language going into complete miss use, unless it was spoken at home, in places like Galicia where it was the rural (majority) population spoke Galician; brought a lot of problems for many children who were punished by teachers at school when they said a word in this language, "Hablame en Cristiano" that’s the answer many teachers used to reply.
(In some senses that’s as bad as prohibiting the languages)

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For one thing, he did not lead Spain to the defeat and destruction to which Hitler took Germany.
This point is uncaled for.
The war always has to be mentioned and is usaly (not always) the only way used to dismiss Nationalsotialism.

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Even when Franco was not a [ethnic] Nationalist but a [military] Patriot.
This is one of the main reasons why many NS throw mud in his grave stone.

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Fine. And I seem to remember that I asked you to give me your version so that I could add it on a notebook to the other 87 versions. Well, not with these exact words.
Yes you did, but don't worry is not only my version.
The problem like you well say is that there are diferent ways of interpretating NS the versions usually vary from nation to nation.
But for example there are not 25 diferent versions in one nation, at least in Spain we have a legal NS organization an most of the people are in it or exist in other organizations that have diferent principles in very particular points but that in general they accept CEDADE's (CISNE) view.

Nationalsocialism in Spain has gone the way that CEDADE marked and the way that CISNE will mark in the future to me what they say is: "the oficial version"

Note: Diferences of opinion on subjects just as christianism or paganism, Wagnerism or Nietzschism are not considered diferent versions. When I talk about diferent versions or understandings of th NS ideology I am refering to the general view on ethnopolitics, geopolitics and socialism.

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No, that's an oversimplification of the issue. But I hear that there are methods to alpinificate people. Guttenberg invented a device to such and end, but he ended up using it for other purposes.
For someone who is always bad mouthing the BNP accusing them of racists, haters....
You seem to be on the same line as them the only difference is that your problem is with alpinoids. You hater.

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A otro lobo con ese cuento, caperucita.
(tr.: tell that tale to another wolf, you little riding hood)
I will explain this in the Ibero-Romance forum in future.

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There are more than just two differences between National Socialism and other Fascist ideologies. But never mind about that now..
Don't worry I am pretty aware of that, I was just mentioning just one of the intresting diferences.

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In those simple terms, you create a myth upon which Europe should be constructed. Myths are no solid foundations for building up nations, let alone an ideal of the dimensions of Europe. The origins of such mythicism are clear to me.
Myth? Could you explain to me why you think that this is a myth?

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Sure..
Indeed there is an ethnic motherland.
Do you agree with me or not?

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Because among the 88 definitions of National Socialism (including yours this time), there are no few which actually are opposed to the first point or have a completely different view on which is what in the first point, or ...
Could you please reword this so as I can give you a real awnser right now I can't since I am not sure what you mean.

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Ok, tourists then.
I insist they are not tourists. But since you refuse to understand I will spell it out for you. "THEY ARE THE NATIVE PEOPLES"

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Don't smile at my answer; I am not the webmaster there for I don't know anything about their website.
But like I've stated in the previous post they celebrate events quite regularly.

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You'll have to agree with me on more things.
Don't say that. This forum wouldn’t be that much fun and interesting if there weren't any arguments.

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The visual effect of it is wrong enough in itself. But you must understand that, because it is a projection of a particular mindset, the implications of it are much worse.
I am aware of that. Sometimes I think that the actual problem is that the images used are taken from old NS propaganda panflets. Or are either used directly from propaganda panflets all ready made by "White Nationalist" organizations in the USA.
Is not that easy to produce original ones so some organizations just don't bother or at least thats what seems to me.

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It tells me that you guys are still not beyond hope.
I am glad you think so not all of us are "Nutzis"
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