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Default Re: Race, tribe and nationalism

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Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
Well, you don't think that race is less of criterion for national identity but you build your concept of nation to be more exclusionist on the basis of culture and other such things.
I don't make it anything more than what it really is. It is heritage. A few foreign European elements can be shock absorbed without even noticing. But as numbers approach levels of significance both in numbers and in difference, that heritage becomes more vulnerable.

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American identity has always revolved around race. From the 1700s to the Civil War you had to be "White" (defined as being of European or unmixed Semitic descent) to be an American citizen.
You call that identity. Yet I have seen honest Americans admitting that they are a people confused about their identity, because it is non-existent. Which is why you see them clinging to those fantastic, to the point of ridiculous pseudo-identities. You see them claiming long and ancient lineages one moment, and the next moment admitting that they don't know who their father was.

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Exactly and that is the reason they are so important. They misuse statistics to excuse their multicultural agenda.
The misuse (rather falsification) of statistics will explode them right in their hands. Unfortunately it is us who will pay the bill.

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For example, when they talk about the economic benefits of immigration they group together American engineers who come to work for European companies and Third World immigrants. The key to success for European nationalists is to expose these hoaxes.
But not with more hoaxes. The numbers of American engineers are statistically of no significance there.

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It is utopistic to think that Europeans would embrace ideological nationalism again if the large immigrant populations which constitute a powerful voting block are not deported which can be justified also with pragmatic, economic arguments.
Vlaams Belang's rise has been cut off in part by the vote of the immigrant population. The electoral poster of Front National reflects the awareness of this fact.

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I am of the opinion that considerable economic and social advantages could be obtained if the unassimilated/criminal, unemployed and unproductive majority of Third World immigrants would be deported and immigration from developing countries radically restricted.
I'm afraid that the picture is much more complex than that. In a market economy, economic sustainability is a constant exercise of equilibrium over a tightrope. Market economy is designed in a complex and entangled way in which, if one brick is missing the entire building crumbles. The dependence on global economy has made this equilibrium the more fragile.

We are, I'm afraid, sitting over a time bomb.
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