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Default Re: The Middle East, Islam & Israel: Where do you stand?

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Originally Posted by Caesar Princeps View Post
I think that out of 20? 30? (hope no more ) millions of Muslim invaders, there could be some (very few indeed, no more than 1%) either intelligent enough to recognize European superiority and admirate it or willing to integrate TRULY in order to avoid being thrusted out of Europe. They would be so few, they will be absorbed easily in a few generations. Despite being, I think, no particular need for Europe to have them, it could be just to afford them the chance to become Europeans, if they cause no problems.
So basically you are saying that you are an assimilationist and definitely no nationalist. You should have said that before.

Also, you can keep them for yourself. When you say "Europe" you are not refering to one ethnic/national group but to many. I don't want them here.

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I actually think, ethnic appartenence can be changed (as Religion, Language, Culture and Traditions do not depend on our genes, and racial peculiar traits can disappear in a handful of generations).
¿Qué?
ethnic:

Main Entry: 1eth·nic
Pronunciation: 'eth-nik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin ethnicus, from Greek ethnikos national, gentile, from ethnos nation, people; akin to Greek Ethos custom -- more at SIB
1 : HEATHEN
2 a : of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background <ethnic minorities> <ethnic enclaves> b : being a member of a specified ethnic group <an ethnic German> c : of, relating to, or characteristic of ethnics <ethnic neighborhoods> <ethnic foods>

Any reason why you didn't mention race?

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Remember that there are already historical Turk minorances in the Balkans, including Gagauz (Christian Turks), not to speak of Arabic blood in Spain, Portugal
Have a look at genetic studies before speaking of Arabic blood in Spain.

I should also remind you that the Holy Office (the Inquisition) had to deal with the converse (which is what you propose) as they posed a danger to the stability of the nation. Hundreds of years of spilling blood in countless battles followed by some more hundred of years of Inquisition.

If you are a liberal assimilationist, say so. There is no reason why we shouldn't discuss and argue against such views. Everything is debatable, but under its right name.
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